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Offline Mark R

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #80 on: December 08, 2015, 02:33:00 PM »
Hey c'mon everybody the speed at which you shoot an arrow is personel preferance, snap shooting is faster and fine, but short drawing is wrong.

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #82 on: December 11, 2015, 02:42:00 PM »
I tried your method this fall and have found my shooting to be more consistent in short time. It gives me the rhythm I felt I needed and also helps with continuing the push/pull. I used to have trouble dropping the bow arm, but this method seems to help that as well. It does take full concentration to work. I also draw bow with bow up in position. So there is no extra bow arm motion to throw shot off.

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2015, 06:16:00 PM »
I do the same focus on spot push,pull to anchor and release. Can't hold or will lose my focus
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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #84 on: December 21, 2015, 03:59:00 PM »
I had an 8 year old instinctor once.....

She was quite fearless herself and still is...
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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #85 on: December 22, 2015, 11:47:00 AM »
Terry nice video. I guess our 8 yr olds taught us a lot back then.
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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #86 on: December 22, 2015, 09:23:00 PM »
Yes sir....still teaching me.....if you want to see what she's instincting now mosey over to

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2016, 06:47:00 PM »
I know plenty who shoot this way, and they hit the target really well.  I wish I could.
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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #88 on: March 11, 2016, 12:10:00 PM »
I liked this thread when it was first posted and I just re read it, lot's of great insights.

I'm a snap shooter, pull through anchor, touch and go kinda archer. That is most comfortable and natural for me.  

However, this past year I have shot many dozens of hours in practice, working on slowing down my shot.

If I add approx. two tenths of a second to "settle / align", my accuracy seems to increase.  It's rare that I hold for a half second, usually much less...

A huge part of my practice has been wand shooting,  working on really good alignment, so when I hit full draw, I'm all ready to release.

I also switched to a straight bow arm while drawing and to 3 under, which allows me to "aim" while drawing, albeit I'm not thinking about aiming.

I practice shooting instinctive and also practice adding that few tenths of a second and "seeing" the arrow like H. Hill talks about with split vision.   I don't generally see the arrow unless I make an concentrated effort to do so.  I don't gap (trajectory) but sometimes I confirm alignment (windage) with the arrow tip.

This past year I have also practiced holding for 2 seconds.  While I don't shoot that way on a normal day I find it nice to be able to hold and still shoot well.  I found it difficult to hold like this at first but after a few months, I can do it, if I want to.  

I needed to practice holding longer to combat a certain "short draw" issue I had developed, but that's another thread.

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #89 on: March 11, 2016, 03:56:00 PM »
I at times have a problem dropping my bow arm. I have tried to deal with this problem by imagining that my "target" is staring at me and I want zero movement on my part on the release. I am a 3 under gap shooter but that does not mean I can't shoot fast when the occasion calls for it. I had a bull elk at 25 yards staring right at me, my bow arm was already up so I drew the bow as slowly and with as much control as I possibly could. The elk did not even notice the movement until the releas and I watched him go down 150 yards away. Later that same season, two muley bucks came charging out of an aspen thicket and stopped dead in their tracks at twenty yards, staring at me. In one fluid motion I came to full draw, anchored, and released. 8 seconds later I heard the buck crash. If I try to "snap" shoot, sometimes I do good, sometimes crappy. I stick to what works for me!

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2016, 02:50:00 PM »
If you have trouble dropping your bow arm that is a form issue....see the form clock thread at the top...proper alignment eliminates bow are dropping, allong with numerous other problems.

Here's another 'instinctor' that's about to turn 80...so we now have from 8 years old to 80 on this thread...

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #91 on: March 16, 2016, 03:50:00 PM »
Thanks for deleting the post by the so-called 'King'.  Heaven forbid some awful parent introduces their young son to traditional archery.

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #92 on: March 17, 2016, 03:52:00 PM »
Sorry Jabar.  I     :dunno:     why I did it. Honestly I didn't think anyone would have noticed.

I have reposted them.

There was a time all he wanted to do was shoot -

   

   

   


These two videos were a alil speed shooting drill I used to do with him.


Now 9 yrs later at 17 it's hard to get'm out to shoot. He still loves it but the past few yrs it been playing & traveling for baseball on his mind.

   

   
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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #93 on: March 18, 2016, 12:51:00 PM »
My hats off to you guys who snap shoot , my mind doesn't work that fast. I have to draw ,anchor , get all comfortable ,get my right sight picture then shoot.I tried the snap shooting but got tired of putting windows in my barn.

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #94 on: March 24, 2016, 12:19:00 PM »
Yes...and I'm such the AWFUL father for allowing my daughter to shoot in that same manner, even though she shoots light out!!!!
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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #95 on: March 24, 2016, 02:39:00 PM »
I used to hold at anchor for a couple of seconds.
Somehow in the last few years, without trying to, i turned into a snap shooter.
Once i hit anchor the arrow is gone. If i try to hold at anchor for even a little bit my accuracy really suffers.
It is almost one continuos motion for me now.
Draw with back tension, and when my middle finger touches the corner of my mouth the arrow is gone,while i continue the follow through.
I have had people comment"boy you snap shoot", or "you shoot fast" as in it is a bad thing.
It is just more comfortable and natural to me.   :archer2:

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #96 on: April 12, 2016, 12:30:00 PM »
Pulling and holding, even for a few seconds, is a good way to get joint pains if you shoot heavy bows. I don't hold at all (60#).

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2016, 12:44:00 PM »
Here's another goofy guy who insisted on shooting this way. Who knows what he might have been able to accomplish if he'd seen the light?

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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2016, 03:29:00 PM »
"...and my practice in the past had taken care of everything....the body, the human body it's a great thing."

Love that statement.       :thumbsup:      :archer2:    

Thanks for posting that link.
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Re: Instinctive "snap" shooting
« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2016, 10:50:00 PM »
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Originally posted by eidsvolling:
Here's another goofy guy who insisted on shooting this way. Who knows what he might have been able to accomplish if he'd seen the light?

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Just so I understand correctly, at the beginning of the video at the 20 second mark, Mr. Bear is saying he "doesn't recommend it to anybody", referring to instinctive shooting, I believe...  That's an interesting statement as I have heard he struggled with target panic.

I haven't had the chance to watch the entire video.

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