bending at waist

[nhbuck1]

before you draw your bow how do you bend at the waist before your bow arm goes up to get your cant? do you simply just lean forward?

[Draven]

The "bending" is happening after you are "squared" in place, not before or while preparing your shot. First draw the bow like shooting straight and after all the things are in place, you bend. When the structure is in place, you will see that the single way to move without losing it, is when your eyes, head, shoulders, arms, bow and arrow are acting like one.
The cant is something that is happening due to natural position of the bow hand when properly extended, the type of grip you use and how you look at the target. Unless there are some branches or obstacles that will force you to try to avoid them to get the shot I see no reason to worry about canting - this is something personal that comes natural. Trying to mimic something natural for someone else is not a good thing - forget about others, just observe yourself or listen to your body. When it doesn't feel good, something is done wrong. Sounds like a line from Mr Obvious book, but reality says that we tend to be "monkey see, monkey do" when we learn new things instead trying to understand why we see what we see.

[nhbuck1]

anyone else have a good example of this?

[moebow]

Think of how you would move a shotgun in the shooting position.  You would move your whole body to swing the shotgun up,down,left or right.  Same thing with a bow at full draw.

Arne

[nhbuck1]

so in order to get my cant should i draw the bow vertical first?

[nhbuck1]

this is the area im confused at, or should you start your lean before full draw and before you raise the bow?

[moebow]

I'd suggest LEARNING to do it standing straight up. ONCE you have the Idea, you can draw from any position and still achieve proper full draw alignment.

Arne

[nhbuck1]

i have been shooting for a while but im trying to understand the correct method on canting from the waist, is this something you do after at full draw? seems like alot of extra movement then before your draw cycle

[olddogrib]

Yes, deer tend to get excitable about movement in tree stands....take Moe's advice.  Ingrain the proper alignment of the upper torso needed before hunting season and then draw from the position that minimizes movements.  I'd practice shooting seated also, been busted by plenty of deer trying to stand.  I'm afraid the saying "deer never look up" became obsolete about the same time that Baker stands did.

[nhbuck1]

then how come you see people starting there draw with the bow already canted?

[Roy from Pa]

Because no one does everything the same.

[nhbuck1]

that was a big help roy

[Roy from Pa]

The point was, you could ask 10 different folks about how they cant the bow and draw. And you could get 10 different answers.

[nhbuck1]

i know roy it is very true with something i never thought of so i thought it was a good statement

[forestdweller]

Originally posted by nhbuck1:
i have been shooting for a while but im trying to understand the correct method on canting from the waist, is this something you do after at full draw? seems like alot of extra movement then before your draw cycle

I don't see too many guys bending at the waist when they cant the bow. I just looked up a video of Byron shooting and he's canting the bow a good amount and there's no bending at the waist.

[nhbuck1]

exactly my point

[Roy from Pa]

I shoot a lot of 3D. I've seen guys who shoot very well and they have form that would drive an archery coach crazy..

Kyle, I've read a lot of your threads. I can see you want to be a good archer, by the questions you ask. It's sometimes hard to put into words and hard for you to understand what's being explained to you. I wished we lived closer together so we could shoot together. It would help you greatly if you could stand behind or beside someone and watch how they shoot. And they watch you shoot and mentor you.

[Terry Green]

Tell me if this will play.....

 View From Rear

[reddogge]

Here's a good friend of mine, a former National NFAA bowhunter champion and a very good shot. You can see how he is bending at the waist with his arms still perpendicular to his torso. Perhaps that will help.

   

[Roy from Pa]

It plays, Terry.