anyone aim this way?

[snowplow]

Hey guys. So I started instinctive like most others. And for quite a while now have tried really hard to get my point on to a reasonable distance and/or run a fixed crawl. It's not really working out with my setup so it seems.

So.. My most comfortable and common shot around here is 30 yards. One thing I just started trying with pretty great success is to just shoot the same shot.

So I'm back to instinctive. And a 30 seems natural for me. So if I'm shooting 20 for instance instead of string walking, or face walking, or looking at my tip and gapping, I have been just picking a spot 6" low (or whatever number) and shooting that same shot every time. I can drop them in pretty good at 40 this way too by just picking a spot 6" high and shooting the same shot.

I've never heard of this but it seems pretty simple to me so far and is much more repeatable than anything I have tried so far.

Is this a thing? Anybody else do this?

[Roadkill]

Yes. Works for me

[rraming]

Gap shooting?

[David McLendon]

I have shot instinctive/split vision since 5 y/o (60y/o now) and am giving it up due to a progressively worsening eye disorder and moving towards a 3 under fixed crawl set up. The arrow set up that I favored for instinctive will not work as well for me with fixed crawl so I'm doing a lot of shooting and research as I work towards what will work best for me.

[McDave]

Snowplow, I have heard of people using your method, and if it works out for you, that’s all that matters.

I tried the method you describe some years ago, as I have tried almost every other shooting suggestion I have ever heard of, and didn’t stay with it very long.   This is the problem I had with it:  The way the instinctive method works is that the mind unconsciously works out a solution for where you should hold your bow arm to hit the spot you are focusing on.  This is a very simple concept and works out very well for some people.  

Now we change that a little, and instruct the mind to find a solution instead for where to hold the bow arm to hit a spot 6” above or 6” below the spot we are focusing on.  Or, to state it a little differently, we ask the mind to pretend the spot is still 30 yards away and hold the bow arm in the correct position for that shot, while focusing on a spot above or below the spot we actually want to hit in order to correct the ranging error.  My mind didn’t like being tricked, and soon reverted to finding a solution for hitting the spot I was actually focusing on, which was of course above or below the spot I wanted to hit.

I understand the problem of gaps being too large to effectively use gap shooting for short shots, and the problems with using string walking, a fixed crawl, or a high anchor to reduce the gaps.

The solution for me was to back off from gap shooting, but to still be conscious of the position of the point in my out of focus peripheral vision.  I always focus on the spot I want to hit, and don’t worry about where the point ends up.  I believe I am using the method Howard Hill described as split vision, or is now sometimes referred to as instincti-gap.

[snowplow]

I don't know if you'd consider at Gap shooting because there's no conscious Gap. there's no conscience gap.

I noticed when I'm instinctive there's a certain range where I can do really well then out on the fringes I have a lot harder time. This seems easier to me because I just run the same shot I'm good at over and over. And it seems a lot simpler to just adjust the. I'm aiming at on the target if that makes sense. So there definitely is an element of Gap just not with reference to the arrow tip I don't think. It's more like gapping the target not the arrow. Or actually it just dawned on me it's pretty much exactly like Kentucky windage.

[snowplow]

Thanks Dave somehow I posted without seeing your reply. Just figured ld throw that out there because I've never heard of it before. I definitely split Vision shoot once I can actually see my arrow at further distances.

[larry f]

I thought everybody shot this way, I have been shooting this way for 25 years. I have to mentally tell myself not to look at the arrow when I practice.