Why so many new ACS's for sale?

[flint kemper]

Just wondering if there is that much difference between OL's and John's shop. I know the tips on the A&H's seem to be wider. Other than that what's the reason. Thanks Flint

[Whip]

I've not shot either OL's or A&H's, so have no idea whether there would be any difference between bows.  
My guess without knowing any better is it might have something to do with supply and demand.  OL had such a backlog he wasn't even adding names to a list, and those that were on it waited 3 years if I remember right.  Somebody that waited that long for a bow was probably not likely to let go of it once it was delivered.  A&H are more available, and not quite as irreplaceable, even though they might shoot just as good.

That's just a guess.  Only those who have bought and sold either or both could tell you for sure.

[Jeff U]

My guess is that current owners have realized that A&H is producing quicker and will eventually be able to catch up with demand.

There was a time when scarcity drove ACS prices north of $1,500.

As supply catches up, these very high prices will be history.  In the past, buying one of these bows was a no risk deal since you could sell it for more than you paid.  That dynamic is now changing.

So if you have one, or just got one, and are thinking of selling, sooner is better than later.

[draco]

The sellers all seem to mention something about not liking the grip in their ads.

[TaterHill Archer]

Draco hit it on the head for me.  I'm not selling because I'm trying to hurry up and sell before the price drops, I'm selling because the grip doesn't fit me.  I've talked to others that said they were ok with the grip, but it's not right for me.

I have a few other bows on order, so I also need to finance them.

[rastaman]

i've got O.L.'s & A. & H.'s and i like them both. i was never much on a 3-piece till i got my first.  i don't know if it was the weight of the bow or what, but i shoot better.  i like the grip.
Randy

[gilf]

I think it might just be that the fact you would have to wait 2+ years on the list meant that when it came round to your turn for one people had a choice buy then or wait another 2 years. Because there are so few around (relatively) it's likely people simply purchased them without having shot one, they also knew because of the long list that they could sell it on for little or no loss if it didn't suit.

I'm more than happy with mine.

[BobW]

I think it is that the wives found out...

[Bjorn]

They have sold quite a number-at a 3D meet last Saturday I noticed 7 ACS CX's and there were probably more. The grip is about the same as other R/D bows like Morrison, BW etc. Just to name a few. My son and I quite like ours, to each his own-right?

[md126]

my two cents....    these bows are way over-hyped and after all the wait and $$$ there is no way that any bow could live up to that.

IMO ppl are beginning to realize that the bow is not any better than any other high-end bow and are dissapointed. after that its off to the classifieds..........

just my opinion

[Plug]

Ditto.  The bows really received a lot of favorable reviews.  Most likely deservedly so.  I am sure they are great bows.  But perhaps many (not all) bought them looking for that "magic" bow when in reality what they needed is not contained in any bow but in things like good form, practice, and natural ability.  Having plunked down a lot of $$$ for the bow they found it not much better than the bows they had been shooting because their problem was not the bow.  When I say that I'm not saying they were bad shots.  Just that they were hoping the bow would make them better.

I predict in a bit we'll be seeing a lot of DAS bows on the market for the same reason.

[snag]

I think it also is because GUYS LOVE TO BUY AND SELL BOWS! Those that have ACS-CX probably also buy other bows. Some sell and may regret it some day. Others like a different bow better. I bought one for a good price. I love how it shoots where you look. I put a put a rubber grip cover on it and now I love the way it shoots. The grip was a little too slippery for me. My Blacktails have the checkered grip I don't need the cover on them. I doubt I will sell this ACS-CX. It does shoot smooth and with authority.

[Dave Lay]

Plug I think has it, we did some testing with a buddys acs and found it to run about even in chrono numbers as a local boyers longbows, just dont see that much diffrence, my buddy sold his shortly after that.

[Toxophilite]

Snag has a good point.  
Hi, my name is "Toxophilite" and I'm a bowtradeaholic.  
Traded into an ACS/CX a few months ago. Found it to be a fantastic bow.  It lived up to its reputation as a very fast, dead in the hand, well balanced weapon. For a variety of reasons not related to the bow, I decided to sell it recently and will probably be sorry I did.

[crosseye]

i have to think that too many people are caught up in the "speed/chrono" numbers of acs bows rather than realizing the performance difference they possess.  i have only seen 1 acs bow perform.  it was about 4 years ago at a 3D shoot.  with 8-9 gr/lb arrows, it was comparable to some of the other bows there speedwise, but then the guy said. "watch this!"  he proceeded to pull his hunting weight arrow out of his quiver (it was around 13 gr/lb) and it shot SO much better than our bows with heavy arrows.  i think that is the big difference in the ACS bows, at least that is what i perceived.

stan

[eagle24]

I recently went on a 5-day (outfitter) bowhunt in IL.  It was a fairly expensive 5-days of hunting.  Was it worth it?  Absolutely!  Is it worth it to someone else?  I have no idea.

I had one of my two ACS-CX for sale in the classifieds.  I began having nightmares the night I put the bow up for sale.  Monday, I marked the thread "sold".  The bow is no longer for sale and the nightmares went away.

Most ACS-CX owners I have met still have their bows and believe they are tops.  I know DAS, Morrison, Black Swan, Shrew, self-bow shooters, etc..... that feel the same.  Man it is great to live in the USA!

Oh, I have a bow with O.L. limbs and one with A&H limbs.  I like the O.L. limbs best, but can't really say they are any better.

[kawika b]

What Greg said,,, I too can attest to the nightmares,,, totally regret selling my 58" 1pc Adcock ACS CX,,,, totally. I just got a 3pc and find that I can't just shoot it like any other bow I've had,,, needs some gettin used to. One thing for sure,,, the ACS CX does perform.

[JohnV]

Most people are unaware that A&H has come out with a new wood riser that is 2" longer and has more of a recurve style grip.  They do not have any pictures or mention it on their website.  They had one model on show at Compton's.  I liked the new riser so much I had them hold my order until they program their CNC machine to cut the new riser for a lefty bow.  With the limbs used on their 62" 3-piece, the bow length with the new riser will be 64".  Those who are not crazy with the current grip/riser will want to take a look at this.  Should be any time.

[swampbuck]

John maybe they need new fixture's but programming from a rt to a lft hand would be a rather simple procedure just mirror at the machine or if their cad system is up to date they can mirror it there without screwing up their offsets(which side the cutter cuts on)

Not sure why so many for sale,can't say that mine won't be if somebody ever gets it done that is and the wait is longer than 3 yrs too unless your waitin on John @ A&H who seems more prompt

[bayoulongbowman]

I shot OL's and the AH...my Jeff Massie( Longhorn) shoots better than either...never did buy into the hype myself...dont get me wrong , shoot what works for you...that is  why baskin robbins has 31 flavors ...