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Author Topic: Nilguy ???  (Read 1266 times)

Offline kctreeman

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Nilguy ???
« on: November 27, 2007, 10:28:00 PM »
Irish and I are headed to FL in January to hunt a few pigs and deer.  We will have a chance to try our luck on nilguy.  I have never hunted them before and don't know anything about them except that they are big. Are they good to eat?  What do you do with one if we do have some luck?

Offline gatorgar

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 10:34:00 PM »
Great eating if you ask me.  Very hard to take with a rifle, much less a bow.  I cook them up just like any ole steak.
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Offline draco

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 10:36:00 PM »
They are very hard to get close to and harder to punch thru than a big hog.

Offline Roadkill

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 10:45:00 PM »
I thought they were along the coast of Tx, never knew they were in FL
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 11:02:00 PM »
What method to hunt? Spot and stalk, tree stand?  I tried to find info on the net but just came up with a bunch of ads for guided hunts.  Anyone know of a website or book about them.  I'm shooting a 65# recurve and heavy woodies, sound like a good enough setup?

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 11:06:00 PM »
Don't know anything about them but good luck you guys. I hope you have a great hunt  :)  

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 11:09:00 PM »
Tracy that was one nice buck.  Congrats.  Are they still running hard?   Still got my KS buck tag for western KS.  May have to make a trip out there again.

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 11:24:00 PM »
Thanks John, They have been running for the last ten days.So I am sure there is a doe or two that still needs breeding. Chance of snow this weekend I will be on days but my son will be hunting hard. He has a couple of big ones he is chasing.

Good luck  :thumbsup:  

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2007, 11:51:00 PM »
Friends tell me Nilgai tend to have areas wher they deposit their droppings at. They say you will find mounds of droppings concentrated in small areas,and they hunt there. Maybe one of the Wensels will see this and chime in as they have some Nilgai hunts on the King ranch and would know more.

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2007, 12:03:00 AM »
Draco hit it on the head.  Some buddies of mine have hunted them that way, with training wheels and have had decent luck.  Another option is to find a watering hole with some good trails coming to it. They like to water in the same spot and once you get them patterned, it's a very productive hunt.
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2007, 08:22:00 AM »
John,

The Blue antelope of India is what your after. The Nilgi originally came from India, the largest of the antelope specie there. They are big and built like a brick $hit house. They are well known to absorb alot of lead. Very wary animals in the wild and from what I'm told one of the toughest trophys to take in Texas with a bow. How tough they are to hunt is very dependant on where they are habitating. In Florida they are a ranch specie not free ranging as a number of them are in Texas. You have some good advice on waterhole's above and I am sure the rancher will have some good advice. I have not hunted them myself but have a number of friends that have shot them with bow and gun. I have eaten it a number of times and it was good meat in all my experiences. Good luck and have lots of fun!
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2007, 08:41:00 AM »
I have been on ranches down in south texas hog hunting and they always tell us, if you want to shoot a nilgai, go ahead, but noone has gotten close enough with a bow yet.  The pile of droppings draco is talking about can get as big as the bed of a truck, this is the best place i have seen to get close to them.  their sense of smell is like deer but better and can see like turkeys, but very fun to try to stalk.  good luck and let us know how you do.
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2007, 09:17:00 AM »
I have hunted them before in TX, very wary and sense of smell and sight is very good, hard to pattern even over the dung piles, there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why they use the ones they do. The best chance you have is that hopefully you will be in an area with lots of them and eventually you will come into contact with one. Good meat, low fat content. My first hunt for them I was not really interested in shooting one but someone told me "if you see one you will want to shoot it" boy was that right on! from the minute I saw one I became focused on shooting one. They can be stalked, it's hard and terain dependant but lots of fun, especially if you get multiple opportunitys. Have fun !
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2007, 11:23:00 AM »
I have taken two nilgai with my 65# Wes Wallace recurve. We hunted free-range animals in south Texas. There are about 40,000 of them in a four county area. The vast majorities are on the King or Kennedy Ranches. It is some of the best eating I have had. My wife always ask when I plan to hunt them again. They were transplanted from India and have found that the south Texas climate is conducive to there reproduction in the wild. You will find the dung piles, which to me just means they are in the area, but it does not necessarily mean that they will frequent during daylight. The mature bulls are very aggressive and have been know to kill each other as well as domestic cattle during the “rut.” I use the term rut loosely because they tend to have kind of a rut or breeding season in January and February, but can breed almost any time. So this time of year I tend to see more movement as the bulls are looking for cows. Water holes are a good start in Texas because it is dry. I am not sure if you will have the same localized pattern in Florida if there is access to excessive water. We had reasonable success stalking because we did see more animals and focused our attention on the transmission areas between mesquite and live oak. However, a tree stand in the transition zone was most productive. Their natural predator are tigers, which are usually on the ground, so getting into the trees helped us get around their awesome vision. Food was really everywhere, so yes it did make it difficult to pattern them. I do not know of any bait you could use to bring them in.

All of this may be interesting to you, but none of it may be relevant in Florida. I image that these will be captive animals, but I am not sure. As far as them being tough to kill, this is true. Mainly because there heart and lung set forward in their thoracic cavity a little more than deer. I would check out the anatomy of other plains antelope as well to get a reference. They also have a high hump between the shoulders due to extremely long spinal process of the vertebrae. This gives you an illusion of a large target, when actually you should be aiming quite low and forward just above where the front leg connects to the body. Look only for broad side or slightly quartering away shot. From a tree stand it becomes even more difficult since most of us are used to shooting deer and we can hit them higher. The bigger bulls develop tough hide in their front shoulders due to fighting. Another thing about nilgai that makes them tough is they can run very fast and cover a lot of ground, so even a good fatal hit may leave you with a much greater distance between blood drops. Their hair is thin and lays flat. They cannot handle the cold very well. There has been several die-off due to extended uncharacteristic freezing weather in south Texas. The challenge is great, but so is the reward if you are truly able to hunt them.

I published an article about nilgai in TBM, you may be able to read it in the Best of Traditional Bowhunter book compiled by Gene Wensel.   brothersofthebow.com

Good luck and have fun,
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2007, 01:41:00 PM »
And the meat...WOW I believe it is my favorite. Low in fat and that cholesterol stuff. Fantastic taste.
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2007, 04:33:00 PM »
Thanks guys, sounds like I'm in for a challenge.  These animals will be behind fence but a very large fence.  Irish and I will be hunting hogs and deer and the rancher said that we could try for one of the nilguy.  Hopefully the meat is as good as you guys say it is, the deer hunting has slowed a little around here.  Don't want to start any aguments but would you guys suggest switching the WW's for my Magnus 2 blades?

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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2007, 08:39:00 PM »
John,

Sounds like your gonna have to cover yourself with Nilgi dung and hold tight! I'd stick with the two blades or have one handy if that nilgi shows up. Penetration will be the key on these guys.
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2007, 09:49:00 PM »
OK, maybe John is going to cover himself with Nilgi dung    :eek:  

Think maybe I will hold back say 15 yds and John can be the decoy!!
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2007, 12:08:00 AM »
Yep awesome eating and even more awesome challenge. I spent three hog hunting trips to the King ranch back many years ago persuing the wily critters. I wanted to stalk and kill one, got close many times but just never came together.

Then Barry I think it was wrote his article in TBM on the "Blue Bulls".... Before the article Nilgi were only another $10 or so tacked onto your hog hunting fee. The next year after the article they went to like $175 a day just to hunt the blue bulls....   :mad:  Thanks Barry....   ;)  

Mike is right on, hold low and forward and be prepared for a tough blood trail even with a great hit. I was in on three or four trailing jobs and these guys are very fast and tough. Every time I see a mount of one I get the urge to head south.

Enjoy your trip guys!
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Re: Nilguy ???
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2007, 12:50:00 AM »
Any one have a pic
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