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Offline Troy D. Breeding

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Building up to heavier bow weights???
« on: January 23, 2004, 10:53:00 AM »
Thought I'd ask and see if anyone can lend alittle advise as to building strength for heavier bows.  :eek:   I used to shoot 72#'s but over the years found it unnecessary for the game I'm been after. Now I'm thinking about OZ in acouple of years and feel I need alittle more bow weight.  :readit:
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2004, 11:49:00 AM »
Troy , Im not the example yet but I have been building up too . Stomach muscles , abs , strengthen the back ...crunches...A strong back's foundation is through the stomach muscles...flexable tubing streches are good too. Now having said all that you have to be in shape brisk walking is helping me and biking stationary ...I also am trying to loose weight , these are just a few things Im doing that is helping..good luck , Mark#78
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2004, 01:00:00 PM »
Walking is something I need to do more of. I knew from previous back problems that keeping the gut down helps. I have an old gate building frame outside the shop that I use to help work the gut. It has two arms that are just right to hold onto and lift the legs in a crunch method. I know the first couple of time I used it the ol' stomach really told be about it the next morning.
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »
Troy

When I moved up from 53 to 58 I did just as you are doing. I would shoot the 53 a few shots to "warm up" and then shoot the 58 until my form was getting off and switch back to the 53. At the "Real Thing" last year I shot (5) 30 target rounds with the 58 and my last round was my best.

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2004, 01:38:00 PM »
T-bell , Tal Mcneil that won the longbow was shooting around 58# also at The Real Thing.I will have my 61# lighting singing ,soon has I get me some of Troy's arrows..     :wavey:          :thumbsup:      mark#78.....people already planning not to miss the Real Thing this June 4th 5th and 6th.>>>---->>
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2004, 12:04:00 AM »
I've just gone from a 62# curve to a 70# curve @ 28.These things take time and dicipline. What I did was shoot the 62 for warm ups for say 3 Doz shots than picked up the "Hand Cannon"! lol , drew to past anchor for a few times and than shot it till i felt I was spreading 'em than had a brake.
  Another way is to draw your bow and hold past anchor for a count of 5 and build it up from there. Works for me.

Hope this helps, regards Al in Oz.  :cool:

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2004, 03:18:00 AM »
The problem I've got is that when I bought my Bear T/D it came with 70# limbs and being totally ignorant I tore the ligaments in my left elbow trying to pull it, couldn't touch a bow for about four months, now that was 18 months ago, I can manage 55# no problem now but every time I try the 70# the pain is pretty bad. I haven't touched them for about 3 months but I am seriously thinking about Oz and want to be able to take the 70#s with me, obviously.
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2004, 03:43:00 AM »
Troy, you wanna' borrow my 98@28 to work out with?  

There was a good article in TBM a while back (will try to remember to look and see which issue) about building up to heavier bows--it was written my Dr. Don Thomas, so I believe it's good info (I tend not to believe everything I read).  Tells about excercises you can do and such.  

I've got an 85@30 on order for Oz, and my plan is to work with it until I'm comfortable, then shoot it exclusively until I do the hunt.  I shoot [email protected] now, but used to shoot just over 80# for everything.  Like Troy, I finally wised up and figured out there was no need for that kind of weight.  Guess I am lucky--I can still pull over 100# (on a good day), and I don't think working back into 80+ will be a big ordeal.

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2004, 06:57:00 AM »
push up's, hundreds and thousands of push up's... control your descent, slow is the key and work the shoulder muscles both ways, up and down... with the core strengthening, stretching, and pull ups... you'll be in great shape in no time...   :thumbsup:
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2004, 12:54:00 PM »
Chad,

You know I told you about that Arm breaking hand cannon the last time we talked.  :scared:  

I read the artical and thats what started me out. Wish I had a place for one of those home gyms like Dr. Don uses.

Like I said earlier, I thought I was in pretty fair shape. Last fall when bear hunting in NM with O.L. I didn't have any problem with the high altitude or handleing the heavy load of pack frame with gear and ground blind. However, after pulling out the next step up bow I found that somewhat conditioned legs and lungs ain't worth a hoot for pulling a heavier bow.

Did alittle bow trading last week and now have a three piece ACS that pulls 65# at my draw. Good thing about this bow is I can order extra limbs when I'm ready to increase my weight.  :thumbsup:   Hopefully with the way this puppie cast my heavy Hickories I want have to go much over 75# in bow weight.

So far I'm able to shoot somewhere around 50 arrows with the ACS after warming up with my lighter bow before I start loosing control  "[dead]"   At the rate things are going right now it want be long before the 65# will my starter bow. Not going to push it. It may take 2 or 3 months before this happens.
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2004, 10:34:00 PM »
Troy sounds like you are on a pretty good track. I believe it is good to work the other side as well and i also am becoming a fast believer of just plain old arm rotations at the shoulder, both forward and backward with a light weight in hand.


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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2004, 10:44:00 PM »
Troy, while everybody has their own routine for building strength. Years of lifting weights has taught me not to underestimate a multi-vitamin, plenty of good food/water, and a proper amount of sleep. It really does make a difference. Good luck, Lewis

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2004, 11:05:00 AM »
Troy,
I used the exercises on the video "Pulling Bigger Bows" sorry but forget who produced it. You do the exercises with your bow. Found that they helped tremendously in building up the correct muscles without danger of injury.
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2004, 10:09:00 PM »
Wayne , I got get me one of them tapes...mark#78  :wavey:    :wavey:
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2004, 01:11:00 PM »
Wayne,

Remember seeing that some time ago. Hadn't even thought about it. I'll see if I can find one. Good idea.
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Offline Charlie - SA

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2004, 03:58:00 PM »
Price Ebert from around San Angelo produced the tape.  I think you may still find an advertisement in TBM.

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2004, 06:02:00 PM »
Do you mean there is an ad in the current TBM?

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2004, 08:37:00 AM »
I believe I've seen the ad within the past year.
I remember another thread about this subject came up and I recall looking through the past TBMs for an ad.
I've got the tape, it describes exercises using a bow, a cable or spring chest exerciser (the device with 2 handles and cables/springs connecting, add/remove to increase/decrease) and a set of spring grip exercisers.

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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2004, 08:01:00 PM »
Progress Report!!!!  :p  

Well it's been alittle while sence my first post. Thought I'd post how things are going.

After installing the chin-up bar I really found out what kind of wimp I was. Couldn't even make one chin-up. Talk about feeling like a woosey.  :scared:  

I've moved up to 25# hand weights and finding that it's really helping. The first few days of shooting my new 65# three piece ACS saw the world shake when I tried to hit full draw.  :smileystooges:  

As of this afternoon I'm able to reach full draw and shoot an average of thirty arrows before the quake starts. Now,,, I do warm up with my 57# bow for about thirty shots before grabbing the new bow.

With time I think I might just make it.  :bigsmyl:
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Re: Building up to heavier bow weights???
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2004, 02:37:00 PM »
Wow, look at all the guys interested in going to OZ, its makes me realize how fortunate I am. I'm planning my 6th trip! Troy, main thing is not to strain yourself, that really puts you back. I think most of the guys that talk about hurting themselves tried to force to much to soon. One thing to remember is that ANY exercise benefits the whole body and even walking helps build your back and arm muscles. I keep a heavy bow strung all the time and whenever I think of it, I draw it slowly and hold it for a few seconds several times, BOTH right and left hand. I only shoot right handed, but you will develop faster and with less problems if you work both sides. Don't try to jump up in the higher weights more than five pounds at a time, I can say that the jump from 80 to 85 pounds is a BIG one. The good news is that after I shoot 85#'s for a while 80#'s feels like I could shoot 3D with it! Also after you work up to these heavy weights once, it is much easier to do it next time! Rick

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