Author Topic: Broadheads for Black Bear? (Read 5725 times)

beachbowhunter · « **on:** December 20, 2005, 01:49:00 PM »

Not sure if you guys think black bears qualify as dangerous game, but I need some help. I'm trying to book a spring hunt in western Canada for 2006. There are a lot of sites online, but I would like to find one with a good recommendation that is archery friendly. Any suggestions? Warnings?

Thanks a million,
Norbert

Bob Macioch · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2005, 02:30:00 PM »

Norbert
I've hunted with Ryk Visscher in Alberta the last two years.Plenty of bears with a good number of color phase bears.

Bob

Bob Macioch · « **Reply #2 on:** December 21, 2005, 09:54:00 AM »

I forgot the link http://ryk.ca/

Bob

beachbowhunter · « **Reply #3 on:** December 21, 2005, 01:22:00 PM »

Bob,
Thanks for the link. There's not much info on his website so I guess I'll give him a call. I assume by going twice that you liked it. Any info you could share?

Thanks,
Norbert

bj6511 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 21, 2005, 01:36:00 PM »

Norbert,

Just sent you an email with some contact stuff (was actually intending on posting the info...hey, guess I've got Xmas on the brain). In case it didn't go through I suggest Carpenter's Clearwater Lodge www.carpenterslodge.com email: [email protected] 204.624.5467 (Doug Sangster owner/guide). Just got my 2006 hunt info today...members of the family have been hunting/fishing with these folks for 40yrs & haven't been disapointed.

BJ

Bob Macioch · « **Reply #5 on:** December 21, 2005, 05:03:00 PM »

Norbert
If you have any questions just ask.I'll do my best to answer them.

Bob

Charles Sorrells · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2005, 06:21:00 PM »

Sent you an e-mail
Merry Christmas,
Charles

beachbowhunter · « **Reply #7 on:** December 21, 2005, 07:00:00 PM »

Charles, I got it, thanks. You should have a reply. Now we're talking! I've got some good leads here and need to see if there are any openings left!

Mooseman · « **Reply #8 on:** December 22, 2005, 02:08:00 PM »

Norbert,I have send you an email.

Merry Chrismas

hunt it · « **Reply #9 on:** December 23, 2005, 06:47:00 AM »

Look up Jason Lambley - Lambleys hunts from the heart in Manitoba. Jason and hid family are from Nebraska and are no stangers in the Trad world. A great guy and has some fine huntin.

tallan · « **Reply #10 on:** December 25, 2005, 04:33:00 PM »

Mountain Creek Outfitters in Saskatchewan. I went last spring with a friend that deer hunts up there every year. Last year was his first full year for bear. Hanz has over 250,000 acres so no problem with finding game. My buddy took a cinammon his second day. I took a 20 3/8" brute my fifth day. 22nd bear I saw from that stand in 3 days. I hunted another stand for 2 days for a real monster that never showed. And the best part, Hanz is a bowhunter himself.
http://www.mtncrkoutfitters.ca/

beachbowhunter · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2006, 12:58:00 PM »

Thanks guys. Looks like we will be going with Ryk Visschers of Edmonton. He could shift his schedule to accommodate us and seems to be a great guy and very active in bowhunting. His hunts are over 90% archery which makes me feel better. Also, one of his friends/staffers is a confirmed trad bowhunter too. It's a long way off, but hopefully I can update this thread with some good info in June!

beachbowhunter · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2006, 07:13:00 PM »

Now, here's a question I'm SURE you've never heard...any suggestions on broadheads? Some say 3 blades are better for bears because of the damage and because they are not extremely thick skinned like a hog. I've had good sucess with hogs using 2blade Stingers but would be open to using a 3blade if there is good reason. I'll be shooting a 58 - 60lb recurve and carbon shafts (most likely), 10 gr per lb.

Mooseman · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2006, 07:11:00 PM »

Good for you! I am sure you will have a fantastic time hunting bear in AB.
As to your broad head selection, I can only reccommend to have them fly good and sharp. Bears will not go far with a double lung hit. I had them go from two steps to 40 steps and that was it. If they went further then it was not a double lung hit and I had to use my tracking dogs.

All the best

tippit · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2006, 08:35:00 PM »

I've had complete pass throughs on all my chest hit black bears with 2 blades (Magnus 125 gr with 100 gr weighted adaptors) from a 49# longbow. I'm sure the 3 blades would open a bigger hole but some of our group use compounds with 3 blades that did not pass through..Jeff

Charlie Lamb · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2006, 09:00:00 PM »

Norb...I don't think it matters if it's a 3 blade hole or 4 blade hole, but strongly suggest a multiblade for bear.

For you it would be as simple as using the 4 blade Stinger... very little would change for ya.

The Stinger "bleeder" is pretty small and won't hamper penetration, but it's plenty big to help the wound "gap" open.

Gun · « **Reply #16 on:** January 09, 2006, 09:51:00 PM »

Second the multiple blade for Bears. Double lung, they won't go over 100 yds. I use 3 blade, of 4 Bears I've shot furthest went 80yds.
Be patient and wait for the perfect shot. Give yourself time to calm down.

beachbowhunter · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2006, 12:59:00 PM »

thanks guys. Charlie, you got me thinking about the Stingers with bleeders. I like the looks of the Simmons Razorsharks too. They are very similar to the Stinger with its chisel tip but it has the characteristic curve to the main blade. Simmons are supposed to cut a big hole. Has anyone tried the Razorsharks?

Gun, thanks for the PM, sent you an emai.

Norb

pinoak · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2006, 04:41:00 PM »

I like wensel woodsmans, they are not quite as big as snuffers but they penetrate as good as any two blade in my opinion. Plus they leave a hole(smaller than a snuffer but still a wound that does not plug or seal like a slit.
Getting a passthrough is important with bear, but it doesnt mean youll find blood, sometimes they bleed internal. That said a double lung or heart shot and they dont go far. One lung or lung and liver and you can have a serious tracking job. I cant say it enough but really study the location of there vitals, I was hunting last spring and the camp I was at had 8 wounded bears for 20+ hunters. Most were actually gun but it made me sick, just not hitting the vitals. An inch off with a bear is the diffrence between seeing him fall from your stand or tracking for hours.
I shot a selfbow , plain jane , at fifty pounds and have got complete pass throughs through bear with woodsmans, heavy arrow is probably more important.
They are extremely easy to get scary sharp and fly like darts too.

StanM · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2006, 06:02:00 PM »

I shot my bear this past season with a Woodsman and would recommend them. I got a pass through with a 53 pound recurve and 625 grain arrows. After 15 yards the blood was heavy for another 25 or 30 yards to the bear.

The two bear before that were two blades and with a quartering angle hit the off shoulder and did not pass through. Very little blood trail.

Stan

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