Heavy Arrows

[GroundHunter]

So, heard all there is on broadheads in anaother string, but what type of arrow wood (or not wood) works well for dangerous game heavy shafts?

[Raminshooter]

Groundhunter,

My choice is Ramin.  The cross sectional density of this wood is amazing and it means you really do not need parralel grain to make good servicable shafts.  I have arrows that are 700-880 grains with only a bare shaft (29 inches to back of broadhead) so you can make some real honkers with the.  700 grain shaft with a plain HTM blunt kills squirrels with no problem and these things zip through deer. Best part is even if you don't pass through these things are tough to break so when the animal does break it while running past a tree or something that broadhead does some deadly work.

[Arrow4Christ]

ashby seems to like double-shafted arrows if you read his reports. he also seems to think that a tapered shaft such as the GrizzlyStik offers an advantage.

[Terry Green]

Compressed maples make a nice heavy and durable shaft.

[Aaron Proffitt]

Hickory and a primary dealer for hickory shafts is a sponsor here.

[GroundHunter]

Great. I would get some hickory and some ramin -arrows. Been using lamianted birch, but they tend to be around 700 gr. sans BH.

[rory]

I use Victorian Ash Hardwood shafts. These are Australian shafts and come in 5/16, 11/32 and 23/64 sizes. Personally I shoot an arrow of 750 grains with 23/64 @ 29.5" long, with a 190 grain Ribtek broadhead.
However I was actually told by the maker of these shafts that there are some particular batches of these shafts that when matched with a 190 grain broadhead, fletched and with nock, come in at 950 grains +   :eek:    :cool:

[Danny Rowan]

Terry,

Where do you find compressed Maple?

Thanks,

Danny

[Danny Rowan]

Wayne,

If you can find them in your spine, the old Sweetlands compressed shafts or the newer Alaskan Forgewoods are heavy and great shafts. Problem is they are not made anymore and are very hard to find. What spine are you looking for? I may have an extra 6 or so I could spare from my stash.  :D  

Danny

[Rick McGowan]

You'll have real problems finding GOOD wood shafts for DANGEROUS game hunting. If at all possible I wouldn't go with a shaft over 5/16" in diameter and that will severly limit what woods have sufficient spine. I have some ipe shafts that would be good and the AFA Forgewoods are great, but not available. I have a lot of ramin shafts, but they are not up to the spine or weight, unless you go into a large diameter. You may have luck with laminated birch, but the one I played with would not stay straight. I also tried some double tapered hickory, which would work from a bow on the lighter side.

[Terry Green]

Danny,

You find out and let me know would ya?  I knew a guy that was compressing them, but I have't heard from him in years.  He was going to market the compressor and he sent me some shafts.

Dean T has a buddy that's really into arrows...let me see if he knows anything.

I've still got a few and they are over 750 grains with a 125 head, and they have taken a lot of abuse.

[GroundHunter]

Which sponsor deals in Hickory shafts?
Hickory is usu. heavier than lam birch, which is usu. 625 +- at 30".

This 5/16 preference - is that to get shaft diam under the BH diam per Ashby penetration guideline?

[Rick McGowan]

GH, yep, the smaller diameter will penetrate much better. I use 11/32 on my buffalo arrows, but I'm shooting 85#'s and cannot get the spine with a smaller shaft. The ONLY wood shafts that I could ever get to work with these limbs was the AFA Forgewoods in 100-105#'s and I only ever got ONE of those to try. I got the double taper hickory shafts from Troy Breeding.

[GroundHunter]

Thanks, Rick, and everyone.

I'll look into the hickory. My lam. birch 11/32 30" fletched arrows are 605-525 gr. before BH, so a 190 gr. BH gives 795-815 gr. finished arrow wt - 'bout 800 gr. I'll see if my 70# Li'l Wesley can push it to an Ashby 2.0 TPI speed.

I remeber AFA was selling the business last year. Whatever happened to that? Wonder what it takes to get a compressor, and if lam birch would compress ok?

Frank is Alaskan, right? Frank, know what happenned to AFA or the tools?

[Joseph]

Depending on what spine you are looking at Both PurpleHeart and Ipe will give you arrows that are 800 grains or more without a point.  It is hard to get Purpleheart under a 100# spine.  You can get Ipe in lighter spines but shaft quality wood is hard to come buy.  If anyone is interested I have 10 Ipe arrows that are 90-95# spine and 900-950 grains without points.  Bill at Allegheny Mountain Arrow Woods makes Purpleheart and Ipe shafts and also has laminated Birch in high spines and heavy weights.  Joseph

[GroundHunter]

Great. Just finished reading all of the Ashby reports, & chrony'd my L'il Wesley with a 750 gr. lam birch @ 165 fps. Looks "adequate" for dangerous game less than Buffs.

I'll try some tapered Hickory, tapred lam birch, and work on FOC.

[Gopherhunter]

my 3/8th hickory spine in the 110-120 range and finished arrows are 910 grain (with 125 ww head)

They shoot great from my 90# recurve has 64 foot pounds energy almost enough for cape buff.   They recommend 65# I believe

[Ray Hammond]

Hey, Joseph. I seem to remember that Biggie Hoffman was looking for some 95 lb shafts..but he needs them 32 inches long. Are those IPE's you have that long?

If so, give biggie an email and let him know. I bet he would like to have them.

[GroundHunter]

Gopherhunter, check out Dr. Ashby's stuff in the refereces. That arrow out of your 90# bow should be more'n enuf for Buff.
I guess for Gophers, you just shoot through the ground and pin 'em.

[Joseph]

Ray, they were already cut to 30" BOP.  They were made for a person that ordered them and then back out after they were done.  They are also in Guam now as we speak.  Danny said that they are blowing through his 3D deer   :D   Joseph