heavy arrows for heavy bows

[foudarme]

Originally posted by Jay Campbell, JD:
I shoot 30" Gold Tip Big Game 100s with 12.5" of a Cabelas 230 SST glued just inside the point assembly with Gorilla glue, and 250 gr of weights behind an aluminum insert, a 125gr steel adaptor, and a 160 gr. head. 1030 grains, and shoots bare shaft dart straight out of my 80# BW PLX. 24% FOC.  

could you post a picture with all your adds laid just in front of your GTBG shaft...

[foudarme]

I made today the bare shaft planning test with some safari grizzlystiks. I mounted a 615gr shaft with a 250gr field point either a 865gr arrow. I Shot them with my silvertip which is 83# at my draw length...great arrows. After I tried them with a 290gr grizzly broadhead; then a 280gr ACE and a 260gr Eclipse. The fly is excellent as far as 25 yards, but after it needs to be tuned for the further distances...I will test them on my 110# BW ASAP.

[bear74]

I'm just trying to bareshaft tune some 75/95 gt's with 100gr brass insert, 100gr steel broadhead adaptor and 190 gr tusker and not having much luck. the GT big game 100's with the same setup up front seem to tune a bit better but are right on the the limit of being to short for my draw which is 29" and they are cut down to 30 1/2" seem to be flying alright. I also have a tube from 3 rivers up the guts which brings them to around 750gr. does anyone knw of a carbon with stiffer spine than the big game?

BEAR

[foudarme]

Originally posted by bear74:
I'm just trying to bareshaft tune some 75/95 gt's with 100gr brass insert, 100gr steel broadhead adaptor and 190 gr tusker and not having much luck. the GT big game 100's with the same setup up front seem to tune a bit better but are right on the the limit of being to short for my draw which is 29" and they are cut down to 30 1/2" seem to be flying alright. I also have a tube from 3 rivers up the guts which brings them to around 750gr. does anyone knw of a carbon with stiffer spine than the big game?

BEAR

have you try to put a thicker side plate on your riser...sometimes it's a good way for compensating a too weak arrow...I have ever try this solution on a bow and it was sufficient...

[8th Dwarf]

I had Bob Burton, of Whispering Wind Arrows, make up some Diamond Wood shafts for me.  I have a short draw...26".  These arrows, with Magnus 125 grain head, weigh 960 grains.

I have take two Water Buffalo and one Cape Buffalo with them.  On the Cape, I shot through a rib and SEVERED it, then SEVERED a rib on the off side.  On both Water Buff, I went through ribs on the near side and then lodged in a rib on the far side.  The Cape was down in 8 seconds.  One Water Buff made about 100 meters, wobbling all the way.  The second one went 36 meters!

The bow was a Morrison 54" recurve of 74 pounds at 26".  I'm going back again for both species.  A great arrow makes all the difference.

Too Short

[Jay Campbell, JD]

Paul, What do you think about the extreme FOC concept Dr. Ashby brings forward?  I know Rick McGowan is not excited about it, because of tuning difficulties. Your arrows would have a fairly normal FOC with a 125 gr head, and you've had great success. I've never experimented with it until getting ready for this buffalo hunt, and lucked into having perfect bareshaft and broadhead flight out of these 1000gr, 24% FOC SST carbons-within-Gold Tip carbons I built. But, except for shooting two hogs last week (the arrows never even slowed down passing through), I don't have any real world experience with them.  They are going all the way through my broadhead target, though. :-)  - Jay Campbell

[foudarme]

Originally posted by 8th Dwarf:
I had Bob Burton, of Whispering Wind Arrows, make up some Diamond Wood shafts for me.  I have a short draw...26".  These arrows, with Magnus 125 grain head, weigh 960 grains.

 

I didn't succeed to find a web site for whispering wind arrows, do you have a link...regards

[juneaulongbow]

Here you go...

 Whispering Winds

[foudarme]

thanks so much...and beautiful black bear !!!!!

[foudarme]

I tried today some 1716 inside 2020 shafts...after bare shaft tuning I get a perfect 25 meters bare shaft flight with a 175gr field point shot with a 80#@28 FF silvertip...the total weight of the arrow is 855gr for a 29" length...

[Benny Nganabbarru]

My heavy arrows are Grizzlystik Safaris from Alaska Bowhunting Supplies. They are 880 grains total. That's with a 30" shaft, the 75 grain brass insert, a 125 grain adaptor, and a 160 grain tip / head (and arrow wrap, nock, and feathers).

[NorthShoreLB]

I'm shooting 880gr arrows out of my 80# @26" HH

2117 filled with plastic tubing 200gr broadhead and 150gr weigths

[Justin Falon]

I am using 900 grain Hickory Shafts with 160 grain points.  They shoot well from my 94# hill style longbow.  I have also used ash. They are tough too!

I had used a 1916 inside a 2117 from my 85# Silvertip with very good performance.  That is the only bow that I could get those arrows to fly well from though.

justin

[Precurve]

I've tried for a long time to find heavy spined wood arrows (.24 deflection), but can't find them in my draw length 30-1/2"), so only shoot GT carbons at this point.  The setup I use for my 80# curve is a 4-fletch Traditional 75-95 cut 31" BOP with a 100 grain brass insert and a 235 grain head.  Total weight comes in at 730 grains, or just over 9 gr/lb.  This shoots very well for me.

[Woodduck]

http://africanhuntinginfo.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=379

[Horne Shooter]

Carbon Express 350's, plastic weight tube, 3 brass inserts, Stos broadhead, 5 1/2" feather..crested.  925 grains- 77 lb. Horne Recurve.  Hit like a truck.

[BigArcher]

I shoot a 93# osage longbow.  out of it I use 23/64 cedars spined at 80+. Top them off with 160 or 190 gr  grizzlies. took a elk with them this year.
I have also had fun and taken game with 3/8 hardwood dowels that I bought off of ****.  Fully made up with 4 fletch and 190s they flew great. Heavy, I don't remember exact weight. Only animal I tested them on was a muledeer at about 40 yards.  complete pass through.

BigArcher

[jrchambers]

i shoot gold tip traditional out of a 67# boblee.  175 tip total is 750.  the brass weight adapters work well very consistant weight and easy to tune, weight adapters are at the tip and nock. you could make them as heavy as you want still with a small diamiter i shoot the 5575 one level under the stiffest.  they are heavy for my bow but still go 195 fps.  i could go heaver easy.  just ad and remove at will between groups for tunning.  ive tried stuffing shafts with yarn, tubing, anything i could try i did,  the most consistant stuffing was fiberglass matting all pealed down to the individual fibers and compressed in a easton epic, it went from 490 to 980 but that was way to heavy for a 52# bow.

[Doug Deese]

I bare shafted full length 75# carbon express arrows with my 61# BW recurve.  It ended up that the arrows were perfectly spinned for my bow at full length (32" or so) and weighed about 650 grains.  This method will work unless you gap shoot.  Also as jrchambers mentioned:  Goldtips are very versitile arrows!  You can put weight tubes inside the arrows or you can add screw-inserts to the point or knock end of the arrow.  If you add weight to the point end you will weaken the arrow.  If you add weight to the knock end you will strengthen the arrow.  Try adding weight to your knock end to stiffen your arrow back up.  Pay attention to the FOC(at least 2"FOC).  Finally as mentioned before and the fix to all your problems but very expensive are the Alaska Bowhunting Supply "Grizz Stiks".  I have the Alaskans and Safaries.  They are awesome, beautiful, tapered and very heavy.  Check them out and The cheaper/quick route are the Goldtips with their versitility.  Hope this helped
AKbearb8

[Bert Frelink]

5/16' Ipe shafts from Aeronut, 160 grain magnus total weight 870 grains.
I like them a lot.
Bert.