water buffulo with a selfbow and stone points, now with testing results

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Jesse, a neck shot is a pretty marginal shot, as there's a lot that you can hit without putting the animal down quick enough or at all. That goes for any animal bigger than a rabbit (I guess).

[cheech1]

i hope you have your 416 rigby clean and sighted ben.
if you need it wait until he puts his head down to charge you and hit him between the shoulder blades in the spine that way you will not damage the cape and you put him down with one shot.
good luck.

[Highlandwarrior]

We haven't heard anything from clint in over a month, do you suppose that could be the answer to this? If so, hope he's ok. I was rooting for it to work.

[ozy clint]

still playing with arrows, working out which one spines the best for the 3 points given to me by 'knife river'(300gr)

i think i've got it, but on the shaft i think it would work on the total arrow mass will be around 760-780gr. but i was thinking today about how to up the mass. i have stiffer shafts available. and thought about using that drilling jig thing to bore a hole behind the point to allow the insertion of some solder wire to add mass and hopefully make the stiffer shaft to spine good. i could possibly get it over 800gr this way.

would you guys think less of me having to resort to modern materials in the arrows?      

i'm also still working on my pine pitch. at the moment it is too brittle. i've been told that bee's wax is the solution to this problem. hmmm...now i have to find some bee's wax.


also the title of the post is a bit misleading now. for all this i'm using my bob lee recurve not a self bow, (i don't have one)
just primitive arrows now.
the crux of this experiment is to find out whether the arrow can do it. if it does you just have to get a selfbow to match my recurves performance and you'd be right.

[tradtusker]

Clint, Id like to speak with you some time about your findings/thoughts so far on the stone points, ill be in Aus next June with plenty of time on buffalo, and would like to do some testing with stone points.

[ozy clint]

yeah i'll let you know my thoughts when i shoot something with one. be it dead or alive, buff or boar.

[ozy clint]

okay i've got some testing arrows made.

they are points that woody blackwell kindly gave me. the feathers are turkey feathers that juan de la cruz aka 'northerncaliforniahunter'.....thanks guys        
they are surewood douglas fir shafts 23/64". selfnocks. the points are hafted with pine pitch and sinew. the middle point was the same until i dropped it and broke the point and part of a lobe off        a little re knapping fixed it though.

the points are 4" long x 1 1/4" wide. total mass is approx 760-800gr.
the next freshly killed buffulo had better look out!                
   

   

these are the 1st primitive arrows i've ever made.
they fly great too!

[ozy clint]

 

[NorthernCaliforniaHunter]

My GAWD! Those are STUNNING!!!

[cacciatore]

Congrats Clint,very nice arrows.Also congratulations to your outfitters

[ozy clint]

cacciatore- what do you mean by outfitters?


thanks juan.

[cacciatore]

The ones that provvide you your tools,your equipment

[Bill Skinner]

Those look like they should work.  I think the center one is the one I would use.  Bill

[tradtusker]

very nice Clint! they look great!

[BUFF]

SWEET

[TheFatboy]

Jeez, they look deadly. Damn!

[chrisg]

pretty arrows nice and simple. The bow?
chrisg

[ozy clint]

looks like i won't get any testing done for a while. the wet season has just kicked in here.  

[Wolfkiss]

Does that mean the game will be too spread out or will it just be too wet and muddy to get out there?

[ozy clint]

both, wolfkiss. during the dry there is water in only a few places hence making their whereabouts some what predictible. during the wet they roam where they please. unlike during the dry if they need a drink or a wallow they just lay down where they are.