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Offline Michael Arnette

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Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« on: June 12, 2010, 01:39:00 PM »
Just curious if water buffalo are native or introduced to Australia?

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 02:14:00 PM »
They were introduced in the early 1800's from Indonesia?
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Offline ozy clint

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2010, 06:16:00 PM »
every game animal we have here is not native. except for the dingo.

same in NZ. their biggest land mammal before white man was a seal.
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Offline Earthdog

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 06:40:00 PM »
Come on Clint, we do get whale strandings quite a lot ya' know,,,,LOL.
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2010, 09:24:00 PM »
One more thing, you only hunt non-native animals with archery gear in Australia, native animals are off-limits.

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2010, 10:46:00 PM »
Unfortunately crocks are! recent fishery stats in Qld seem a little disingenuous @ 2000 in the whole state. We are still spluttering with mirth, figure they lost a couple zeros. Not sure of the regional or state regs on roos but 100 odd mls inland from the coast they can be had in number. I'm sure some of my compatriots can enlighten further. On a lighter note most marsupials and bigger lizards have terrible eye sight and can be snuck up on with patience, when frightened a goanna will often scurry up the nearest tall object which could be u. We thought they were attacking us as kids but worked out the ones of that fell over, in the mad rush were left alone.
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 06:49:00 AM »
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Originally posted by ozy clint:
[QB] every game animal we have here is not native. except for the dingo.

Clint I know there is two school of thought Re Dingo's but I was under the impression they were introduced to Australia some 15,000 years ago by Koori people.
That's why in some states it's legal to hunt them.
Mind you having been here that long you would think they would be classified as native.

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Offline Lucas K

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 03:12:00 PM »
I knew that the roos and such couldn't be bowhunted (but can be rifle culled?) but the goannas can't be bowhunted either?

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2010, 04:01:00 PM »
The dingo is really our first feral animal, and together with the folks that brought it over long ago helped wipe-out some of our unique ancients. In most places they can be hunted; here in the Territory, dingos cannot be shot, only poisoned (you don't have to be in government to be stupid, but it sure helps). However, in the Territory, we can shoot wild dogs, and with the proliferation of camp (Aboriginal Community) dogs, much cross-breeding takes place. Other silly sources say that the only pure dingos left are on Fraser Island, so if those scientists are correct, then any dog in the Territory is fair game. I've never seen a dingo in the Territory anyway... only wild dogs.
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2010, 04:04:00 PM »
I can't shoot goannas, but my Aborigine mate can and does. So, I have eaten bow-shot goanna.
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2010, 05:22:00 PM »
All right, I'll bite.  What's a Goanna?
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2010, 08:22:00 PM »
piggy- yeah i know the dingo thing is the way it is.

badger55- goanna's are a ferocious, man eating lizard about 3' feet long. ben did the right thing and ate it 1st. good to hear your allright ben. dangerous things those goannas...LOL
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Offline Spotted Quoll

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2010, 11:51:00 PM »
Plenty of Dingo left in the Western Desert... For some reason interbreeding is not that prevalent. The Dingo's tend to make a meal of the camp dogs out here if they can.

Clint, I reckon that a big Goanna would get the better of most people if they could only catch it with their bare hands and not use cool things like bows. I have seen some that are the size of a small crocodile!

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2010, 12:22:00 AM »
Too bad I would have liked to have hunted for a perentie.
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 04:58:00 AM »
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2010, 05:00:00 AM »
badger55 this is a goana (sand monitor) this is one of two that hang around camp in Cape York it is about a Yard long and will remove your fingers if it bites you or give you a nasty whip with its tail


 

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2010, 07:56:00 AM »
i, too have enjoyed goanna quite a few times , also procured by an Aboriginal mate , during our l hunting trips ...good eating it was too.
We did have , however,  a camp companion that joined us on all our bi annual  hunts ... we call him Cameron the Camp goanna and he just hangs around  camp waiting for scraps ... been there 10 years and whilst I haven't been to that camp for quite a while I'm pretty sure he is still there , waiting for the next tired Bowhunter to fall asleep without clearing his scraps from the  dinner plates.....
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2010, 07:31:00 PM »
Ohhhh crap, I think I'm gonna choke out! You Aussies are W--a--y   too funny.

I'm Headin' for a month of bowhunting on the cape in two weeks.

Damm:

1. I hope I made enough heavy fir arrows, and

2.  If any of those goofy goannas try to climb my ass, they're going to have to eat the end of a 78-pound Hill bow first! (Plus, their ears will be spit from the sound of me screamin' like a scared Sheila!

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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2010, 07:54:00 PM »
lets play spot the green ant nest.

you'll know what they look like rik after a fortnight on the cape. have you ever thrown your bow down and stripped off your clothes while hunting?? LOL you will.....
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Re: Waterbuffalo native or introduced?
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2010, 08:15:00 PM »
Oh bloody 'ell, I think I'm in for it!

Haven't done any real "Streakin' since the 70s. Maybe I'd best start practicing.   Look out Horseshoe Bend, here I come!

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