OK OK lets settle this once and for all..I say we line up 1959-1966...just the Kodiaks from those years.We will run them on pinks.Lose the race lose your bow....Just kidding of course because BH already settled it.The 64 is by no way the speedster some of his brothers are.But again please keep in mind that those year bows were all hand tilled and the limbs were also tapperd by hand.So thats not to say every 1964 is the same.....I know someone with a 1964 50# that shoots a pretty solid 186 ft per second bouts every shot.The bowdocs 1964 55# same arrow is about 176-178............weird huh ????? ya gotta love em..........bowdoc