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Offline d. ward

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Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« on: November 30, 2008, 07:55:00 AM »
this is the stuff.Tougher then nails.bowdoc

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 09:26:00 AM »
doc you can buy it just like that? what are the dims on that? how thick can someone get it?<><
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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2008, 11:57:00 AM »
Doc
I answered over on the trash can thread.
PMed you Frank
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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2008, 01:30:00 PM »
Frank I would like you to meet my good friend Kurt inventer of the new age micarta,Kurt this is my good friend Frank knife maker and all around good guy.Now that we got that out of the way.Talk to me Kurt.I want to know more about it too.....bowdoc

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 01:33:00 PM »
Hey we ai'nt gonna get in no trouble for talking about someone's project or product.Unless we try and make sales of things not aload by TG and if you have the PM icon you surely can use that.Thats why I love this sight..its the greatest.....bowdoc

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2008, 04:51:00 PM »
I'm not a regular in the collectors forum but this is cool stuff and I'm here to give my two cents. I had a chance to hang out in the garage with Kurt and check it out a couple of weeks ago.

I guess he's PMing people who had questions, but for the rest of everyone, it looks like it can be made in about any shape/size/color. It works well with regular woodworking tools and takes a great finish. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does with it. (he's even threatened to make me up some in Packer green and gold for a bow I'm working on)

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 08:27:00 AM »
Come on Kurt do'nt be shy...Let's here some more about the STUFF........bowdoc

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 11:45:00 AM »
Thanks Jared and Don,
I confess, I'm a garage/shop ninny
 I read about why tips are changed out on the 50's era bows, Don let us know the tip material (paper phenolic) was really just for knife handle's, and Fred used them probably cause they were easily available, they lasted 40 or 50 yrs, before needing to be replaced, hmmmm that seems to be pretty good material to me.
 Glue's/epoxy has come a long way since then, I have worked with epoxy's for both boats and surfboards (hint hint) and thought, why not try to reproduce the original colors using modern waterproof epoxy
 I read up about phenolic (I love google)it did not seem like rocket science and sure enough it isn't.
 Paper phenolic is compressed under heat and really seems tough,easily shaped and looks good when finished.
 So Don can I send you a 50# '57 KS for tip replacement using this stuff?.( can't expect anybody else to try it if I'm not willing to be the guinie pig)
 You scared me, I thought it didn't make the grade and was going back to the drawing board, trying to make linen phenolic.
 Guy's please let me know what you think
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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2008, 09:21:00 AM »
You sure can anytime..I think it will work great.One note to make...some bows do have just the slightest curve at the very end of the limbs.The KB-5 material is very hard to bend,so if a guy were going to use some material that was a bit ridged like KB-5.You would want to conture the back side to make a good flush fit onto the fiberglass surface.I bet it will last another 50 years.........bowdoc

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2008, 01:28:00 PM »
Don
Should I make the stacks a little less thick? they would probably bend, if they were not so thick.
           Kurt

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2008, 10:22:00 PM »
This looks like good stuff,  Way to go Kurt.  

I need to buy a fixer upper just to try it out.

Hey there's a good excuse.  

Cool stuff Kurt,   :thumbsup:  

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2008, 11:27:00 PM »

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Re: Awwwwsome tip overlay material (1957 K's)
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2008, 07:55:00 AM »
I'll send it your way tommorrow Kurt.  

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