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Offline Al33

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Bow ID help please
« on: November 30, 2008, 10:47:00 AM »
I suspect this is an older Ben Pearson but need to defer to some of you more knowledgeable folks for a correct ID.

It has brown glass on both face and belly. It is 58" long, 40X @ 28" and bears the serial number 171471. Iy appears to have maple limbs with a thin maple accent stripe running through a walnut riser.

Thanks in advance for any help. Also, if you know who made it can you tell me what kind of finish was used over the glass?  
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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 11:44:00 AM »
Al33,  This bow appears to be a Ben Pearson BPH 70.  I've had a few of these over the years.  These bows shoot real smooth,but the grip wasn't to my liking.  If memory serves me correct, the Ben Pearson logs were on top of the clear finish instead of underneath.  Everytime I tried to clean one up with mineral spirits or even denatured alcohol I had to be real careful around the logo or I would rub part of it away.  That may be what happened to this one.  I'm not sure of the year.  I have a couple of BP catalogs from 72' and 73' and the BPH 70 is not in them.  I would think that bowdoc or Rich Lopez could help you better with your finish question.  Enjoy, roofleakfixer.

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 06:30:00 AM »
Thanks roofleakfixer! Obvious to me is that someone once tried to refinish this bow but did a very poor job of it. They only removed portions of the original finish then put some other type of finish over it. It left unsightly patches and I would like to try and clean it all up. Once I learn what kind of finish to refinish it with I will get to work on it.

Anyone else have any ideas about what this bow is?   :help:

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 07:53:00 AM »
That bow looks very similar to one that I have the glass on the belly is green and the glass on the back is brown. The wood looks to be the same. I would bet $10.00 that your bow is a Ben Pearson. Mine is a "Colt" the "name" is on the bottom limb. Does yours have a name; and if so what is the name?
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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 08:16:00 AM »
Definitely a Ben Pearson...but not a colt.  

THe cut of the riser reminds me of a Golden Soveriegn, but it is not a Sovereign.  I am not  as familiar with the many models of Pearsons as some or but I suspect that roofleakfixer is probably right on.

Pearson probably made more models of bows than anyother manufacturer so it is hard to keep them all straight.

I consider Ben Pearsons to be low cost great shooters.  Lots of "bang" for the buck.  Kindas the poor man's "Bear" bow, although some of them were high quality.  Yours looks like one of those.

Also...the way the serial number and stats are written is consistant with a Pearson.
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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 08:24:00 AM »
Some Colt's were built by Ben Peason some by Wing and Howatt just to name a few.The bow in the pics does look Ben Pearson to me although not all Pearson have the wood tip underlay as the one pictured.Good looking bow.bowdoc

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 12:08:00 PM »
It also could be a Knight by BP.
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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 12:30:00 PM »
Are you guys sure that's not an Indian Archery Hawkeye?  Looks very similar to one I had recently.  I'll see if I can find pics.  

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 01:02:00 PM »
The "Scot" was what I was thingking of, but they were usually with a better riser wood.

Check out this "Scot"

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It could be a Knight.

TRAP - definitely a Pearson product whether it be a Pearson, a Locksley, or a Golden Soveriegn.
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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2008, 04:09:00 PM »
HEY...JUST CURIOUS..
What are you doing picking up a right handed bow anyway...??
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Offline Cyrille

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2008, 07:02:00 PM »
40x is = to 41# if this is a BP the poundage should also be beneath the arrow rest shield at least that's where mine is.
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Offline Al33

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2008, 06:10:00 AM »
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Originally posted by PAPALAPIN:
HEY...JUST CURIOUS..
What are you doing picking up a right handed bow anyway...??
Simple Jack, I love trad bows, especially the older ones that cause me to wonder.    ;)  

I really appreciate the opinions and help folks.    :thumbsup:   Still not enough of a consensus to tell what it is but I will keep trying.

Cyrille, I also once owned a couple of green and brown glass BP Hunters but the riser was more Plain Jane than this one which is the only thing that would cause me to suspect it may not be a BP.    :confused:    Roofleakfixer's point about the BP logo being on the surface of the finish and easily removed makes since in this case because it is not there and as I noted someone did try to refinish the bow at one time.

Looks like I am going to have to search for some pic's of the Golden Sovereign, Knight, and Indian Archery Hawkeye.

Again, many thanks for the replies!

Al

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2008, 06:30:00 AM »
Well, after doing some photo research I think roofleakfixer nailed it with the BPH 70. I found one that looks remarkably like this one, it even has the accent strip in the riser.

   
   
   
   

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2008, 07:16:00 AM »
A133 how about a pic of the underside of the tips of that BPH-70 ??? One other thought is Ben,Fred,Bob Lee,Howatt all of the old manufactures built bows for many different companies ie sears monkey wards colt firearms to just name a few.I know you all know Howatt built around 50 bows for Jack Howard.It may very well be a BP and was built for monkey wards.Bp had a 58" model called a Special with ser.# length and draw weight marked on the riser,but the only markings on the bow was on the lower limb and only had the word Special on it.The Special was in most K-Marts(1970's)and was about 39.99 as I recall.bowdoc

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2008, 08:05:00 AM »
AL

Just refinish it...put a logo of an eye patch on it and call it the "AL CHAPMAN SPECIAL"
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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2008, 08:30:00 AM »
bowdoc, there was not a photo available of the underside of the tips on this one I found on **** to compare to.

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2008, 08:32:00 AM »
OK I thought you had that one in that pic.Darn it ,we'll just keep looking...bowdoc

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2008, 02:25:00 PM »
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Here is one in a left hand on ****...with the accent stripe.
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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2008, 04:18:00 PM »
Looks like a Pearson "Mace" to me. If you look at the "golden sovereign" line for 1967 I think you'll find your bow.
Just this Alaskan's opinion

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Re: Bow ID help please
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2008, 07:35:00 PM »
So many Sovereign and Locksley bows were made exactly ike Ben Pearson models that it is probably be impossible to identify.   Knight, Mace Scott, BP-70, I would bet that if you laid them all together Ben Pearson couldn't tell them apart except for the logos and labeling.
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