Author Topic: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow (Read 11645 times)

Wade Phillips · « **Reply #40 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:49:00 AM »

BowDoc – I want to look at the Autumn Orange glass on the 1960 52” Mag… I don’t like Factory Camo.

My tastes must be a little different than yours…

Your 1960 Kodiak Deluxe - Factory Camo… Might be Bear's greatest paradox… Boy I’m surprised you admitted to owning that bow.

A Clear Glass Camo… Seems more like an oxymoron, rather than a Holy Grail

d. ward · « **Reply #41 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:04:00 PM »

The one I sold to the guy in Pa.will have to come clean and finish the trade at some point.The 56" 1959 does not do much for me now that I've shot a few.I figured the KD was always a way cooler bow..I could take or lieve the camo.Those KD do look lots better without camo though thats for sure..bd

alaskabowhunter · « **Reply #42 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:08:00 PM »

Don't tease us Wade.... post some pics!

Wade Phillips · « **Reply #43 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:13:00 PM »

Sorry Chuck - The server where I post my images has been down all morning. Will try again this evening.

d. ward · « **Reply #44 on:** January 23, 2009, 01:51:00 PM »

Horse crap your laying low to try and win another feather rest ai'nt ya ? bd

Wade Phillips · « **Reply #45 on:** January 23, 2009, 02:13:00 PM »

BowDoc – You got it, tying to win another feather rest, different approach…

Also looking for this “Holy Grail”

1960 Kodiak Maple Sight Window – It probably does not even exist, but if it does, it would look cool displayed with this Purpleheart SW 1960 Kodiak… (undocumented to my knowledge)

Trap – Will you let me sneak this Purpleheart SW (Black & White Overlays) on your “Happy Birthday 59” thread as a 1959 and give me a chance to pick off another one of your feather rests?

ses · « **Reply #46 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:37:00 PM »

Im a big fan of the kodiak mag did they make any in 59

Wade Phillips · « **Reply #47 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:37:00 PM »

SES - Good question. Rumor has it both in 1959 and 1960 a limited number Kodiaks were made in 52" with Autumn Orange glass on the Belly and Brown glass on the Back. A 52" is reportedly shown in one of the color photographs from the 1959 Little Delta Hunt.

ses · « **Reply #48 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:55:00 PM »

geting one would be like finding chickens teeth

TRAP · « **Reply #49 on:** January 23, 2009, 05:57:00 PM »

Sorry Wade, you'll have to save that one for the "Happy Bithday 60" thread.

Trap

Wade Phillips · « **Reply #50 on:** January 23, 2009, 09:15:00 PM »

Trap - I respect your decision to save the Purpleheart SW 1960 for the "Happy Bithhday 60" thread. Please don't tell me next year that you changed your mind and it should have been in the "Happy Birthday 59" because it has a Purpleheart SW. I'd be real disappointed.

LONGBOWKID · « **Reply #51 on:** January 23, 2009, 09:36:00 PM »

Has to be my newly aquired Kodiak Magnum..

63#@28" serial no. 7U5001

huntersim · « **Reply #52 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:25:00 PM »

For me it would be a deerslayer....or any Grumley for that matter. Or longbowkid's k-mag. I really like kodiak magnums and have yet to get one with a curved stripe (cool bow Longbowkid).

TRAP · « **Reply #53 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:02:00 PM »

What are the specs on that bow Wade? Recently Roy Fedewa (Marlon450) bought a LH 64" PH 1960.

From the pic, it looks like the grip is sleek like a 1959 moreso than the 1960 palm swell. Is that the case?

Trap

Wade Phillips · « **Reply #54 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:44:00 PM »

Trap - The PH 1960 is RH 60". Yes it has the sleek grip. Some of the early 1960s had the sleek grip like most of the 1959s.

For a number of years, I have shot mostly 1960 Kodiaks (after discovering there are many reasons 1960s are better than 1959s)and have acquired over 20 1960s (straight Kodiaks). If I find one that shoots well and has a fat grip, and I want to use it for hunting, I remove the grip and take the rosewood down to be like the sleek grip bows (which is still a standard variation).

The 1960 PH 60" has the original grip on it. As you can see the grip is in poor condition, but I wanted to leave it original so nobody could ever think that the overlays were not original to the bow.

Another note on the 1960s, I have owned more completely original 1960 Kodiaks with copper coins then aluminum coins. When I hear the 1959 copper and 1960 aluminum, I shake my head, more folklore.

Do you know anyone who makes the pointed narrow leather strike plates for the 1960 Kodiak Special DeLuxe?

Cody Roiter · « **Reply #55 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:48:00 PM »

Hell way not wade tell away I need some more archery history under my belt

TRAP · « **Reply #56 on:** January 24, 2009, 01:27:00 AM »

Bob York is working on some "59" lined strike plates and has some really good leather and I hope to be able to show some of those soon to folks needing them.

I have a sample and it's very very good.

To answer your question Wade, no, I dont have an original plate so I dont know what one looks like exactly. I have a couple 59 Kodiak Specials, but neither of them had original plates when I got them. Is the 59 KS and 60 KSD the same strike plate?

If someone has an original they'd like to send me I bet we can get a close repro made.

Do you also do the Papa Bear modification to the shelf and throat like I've seen Doc do to his and Grant's bows?

Trap

Wade Phillips · « **Reply #57 on:** January 24, 2009, 02:02:00 PM »

Trap - I hope the "59" lined strike plates you mention are true to the original color. If so I am interested in ten of them.

The Dark Brown "Reproduction Bear" 5-line strike plates that have been sold for a number of years are not even close to being true to the original color or texture. However, they are true to shape and lines.

The 1959 and 1969 Bear Catalogs did not show any strike plates on the Kodiak Specials, they were pictured only with a red feather rest (hope you made lots of red ones). Although not pictured in the catalog with a strike plate, these bows can be found with many different leather strike plates, all of which would have to be considered as “non-standard” until shown differently. I have not looked any place other than the catalogs to know if any Bear documentation from the era shows any leather strike plates as original to these bows.

The 1960 Bear Catalog shows the KSD with a pointed narrow leather strike plate, as my first post on this thread shows, the 1960 Bear Catalog image to the left of the “Clear Glass 1960 Kodiak”. I’ve owned several of these strike plates originally attached to KSD, as well as a couple on KS, but most were in poor condition.

This photograph is the best 1960 KSD original strike plate I have. Yes, I know, the feather rest is shot, and I should buy a replacement, but this bow is all original, originally attached strike plate, originally attached feather rest, and originally attached factory leather grip (grip not advertised on KSD to my knowledge). Want to leave this bow all original so don’t want to remove the strike plate to send you for use as a template for reproductions.

The “bullet shape” strike plate measures .56” wide x 1.20” long x .026” thick at the tip. It is a little thicker at the base, .034”. There is a very small slender piece of material under the center portion of the leather to serve as a thin build out. Actual color is just a shade darker then this image shows on my screen (not that you can see that far).

PAPALAPIN · « **Reply #58 on:** January 24, 2009, 02:20:00 PM »

Interesting

That strike plate is cut just like the ones Jack Howard used on his bows with feather rests, except that they were black.

Nice bow

Cody Roiter · « **Reply #59 on:** January 24, 2009, 02:24:00 PM »

Wow wade I was just looking at the 1960s Bear catalog you are rigth there is no photo of the
strike plate. just like u say the feather rest is the only thing that is showen in the photo.
Nice bow wade....

Cody

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