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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2009, 02:36:00 PM »
Jack - If you get a chance, check the measurements of the Jack Howard strike plate against the measurements I give in my previous post. Would be interesting to know if they are the same size.

Trap - You may also have the Jack Howard market for a black model of the "bullet" strike plate.

Although not yet identified as original, for obvious reasons the "bullet" would be a nice choice for the 1959 and 1960 KS.
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2009, 04:21:00 PM »
What color you looking for Wade ? I would be happy to supply a sample if I have it Trap.bd  
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #62 on: January 24, 2009, 06:45:00 PM »
Here are some pics of the 1960 PH Kodiak handle Trap was talking about.
 

 
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #63 on: January 24, 2009, 07:23:00 PM »
1960 purple heart ibeam.I love that bow and I ai'nt even lefthanded....bd
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #64 on: January 24, 2009, 07:55:00 PM »
Bob York just made me one of the small plates for one of my 63 Type 1 mags...And man they are on the money... Size, material and color. You also need to check out his copy of the latch bears on the bay. They are the "cats nuts".  
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #65 on: January 24, 2009, 09:40:00 PM »
Bob's side plates are gonna rock folks. I've made several of my own and I'm really excited about the ones he has in the works.  

Wade, I think I can get really close from looking at that pic and using your measuremnets.  It appears to be veg tanned leather with a smooth finish.  Thanks Doc, let me see if I can wing this one.  I'll keep you posted.

Jack, I've seen plates like you are talking about on some 59 Kodiak Specials and that's why I asked Wade if the 59 and 60 plates were the same.

Was there a supply of side plates and feather rests left behind when Jack passed or do you think it was something he made "as needed"

I still have the Howard feather rest you sent to me and will gladly do my best to replicate that for the Howard bows you guys are going to sell if they are in need of rests.

I'll toss one in the mail and you can take a look Wade and as soon as Mr York gets me a plate I'll let everyone know.

Trap
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2009, 10:58:00 PM »
Dang Doc, you have more strike plates and rug rests than you do toe-nail clippings.  

I bet you have Bear Archery parts you don't even know you have.  

Trap
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2009, 03:14:00 PM »
Yes Trap I made replaements for everything and just saved the old strike plates and arrow rests.I marked most of them with a felt pen on the back the year and model bow they came off.It helps when makeing replaements 5-6 line large.Well actually I believe they were all 6 line large then trimmed to fit each perspective model.I also have a die I made to cut them out and a 6 line roller for adding the lines.Just another bowdoc project...
Wade I may have a bullet type strike plate I could spare as a patten for a week or two.Thats also the only strike plate I ever saw on KD's.bd      
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #68 on: January 25, 2009, 07:19:00 PM »
BowDoc - Looks like you have a nice "collection" of strike plates. You should make a display case for them. Maybe we could start a National Organization and call it the American Strikeplate Savers. Oh, no, that Acronym won’t work. Let’s just forget it.  

Thanks so much for the offer to loan me the loose 1960 KSD Strike place. I think I will just wait to see if Trap can make them up. A few years back The Grip Master tried to retire from leather work. Grips were nice, but my strike plates were never as good or original as I wanted them to be, as I could never find the right kinds of leather for the various types of Strike Plates. I'd much rather pay someone who knows what they are doing and can make strike plates more true to the originals.

Trap - Forget to answer in regards to a question on your post of January 24, 2009 01:27 AM, that was “do you also do the Papa Bear modification to the shelf and throat like I've seen Doc do to his and Grant's bows?” No, I don’t cut the shelf lower to be like Fred’s bows. I only make any fat grips into a thin grip, which is original for some 60s. Everything else on my bows is pretty much restored to “looking as original” except I use a rug rest when hunting as I’m really hard on the feather rests. However, I do use feather rests on my display bows, some of which I occasionally take to a shoot on a nice day.  

Trap - Let me know if you also make leather strike plates for the 1950-1953 Static Kodiaks, or for the 1954 Compass Kodiaks. I need several of each.

Is the 1959 Kodiak strike plate also going to be available in the original two colors and texture for the  1961 and the 1962 Kodiaks? I need some of each of them too… It’s a shame these originals have not been available for decades.
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2009, 08:51:00 AM »
Id like a 1963 Tamerlane 63inch and 40 to 45lbs. Saw one once was too cheap to buy it.
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2009, 08:57:00 AM »
Trap I made a die out of a cloth cutting blade I heated it up and bent it to fit the large Bear strike plate.You just put the die over the leather and wack it with a wood mallit bam a strike plate falls out.Its kind of like a little chooper for strike plates.
Dean thats a great bow and great shooter too.I saw one in 55# once but would have had to sell one of my kids off to purchase that one.bd
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2009, 09:57:00 AM »
bd, the die for the strikeplates is on my project list.  I've been making enough of them over the last year to justify it.

My original Holy Grail is on my bow rack: a near flawless '59 Polar in 50#
 

It took awhile to find one in excellent shape with a gorgeous rosewood SW, and when I finally did, someone bought it out from under me!!    :mad:  A few weeks later it showed up at my door as a gift!!!  You've got to love good friends!  I haven't decided what I'm going to do for a strikeplate, but for now the calfhair does the job.

The only bow I don't have that's of interest to me right now is a 64" 1960 Kodiak Deluxe in the 50-55# range.  I don't expect to find one and if I do, I don't expect I'll be able to pay for it! LOL

Come to think of it, I wouldn't turn away from a '59-60 Grizzly in excellent shape either  :)
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2009, 10:04:00 AM »
Guys, Bob York is making the 59 strike plates and should be sending me a compliment of them to show you soon.  I tried making them and have made some for myself but they arent as good as what Bob is making.

He is going to make them in light brown and also a chocolate brown.

Won't be long, hang in there fellas.

Thanks for that pic Doc, that should help.  

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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2009, 11:40:00 AM »
My Holy Grail would have to be a personal bow from each of my archery hero's

Fred Bear
Ben Pearson
Earl Hoyt
Howard Hill

I don't think there is an end to this list...maybe I have to start playing the lottery, even to start it.
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Offline d. ward

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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2009, 11:44:00 AM »
Wow Kurt I'am hurt bad this morning.I did not see bowdoc on your list...bd
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2009, 11:10:00 PM »
I guess hero is a little strong, how about pioneers??.

Heck BD you already told us you got grandkids, I think it went something like "aint none of you getting the docs secret stash, no how, noway....its for the grandkids" I thought, well I'm patient.
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #76 on: April 13, 2023, 10:32:36 PM »
After years of dreaming about it ... I finally found mine ...Jack Howard Supreme Target ...

It was worth the wait ...
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2023, 11:34:12 AM »
Pictures please.  :clapper:
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2023, 08:47:48 PM »
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Re: Your personal "Holy Grail" collectible bow
« Reply #79 on: April 22, 2023, 08:50:52 PM »
Finally got mine last fall...a '69 Bear Super Kodiak "Black Beauty". Needed a bit of work and sprucing up, but the results were worth it!

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