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Offline B-DOG

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trying carbon arrows
« on: December 04, 2007, 08:42:00 AM »
been thinking about going with carbon arrows after hunting season. be looking at goldtip traditional 35/55 or maybe carbon express heritage traditional 150's. what do ya'll think i'm shooting a 50# tomahawk and a 50# recurve and i draw about 28.75. are there any more carbons that are better? is this the right size?  the goldtips i think i'll have to add weight tubes, what about the heritage. they are heavier

Offline Biathlonman

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 09:02:00 AM »
I shoot real close to the same specs as you...

Personally I have gone with the Gold Tip 5575 and then use heavy weights up front...like about 250 grains.  I find it easier to get your total weight up that way, plus you also get really high FOC which is supposed to be good for penetration.

Offline Mike Byrge@home

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 10:25:00 AM »
At your draw length and bow weight you'll probably be on the edge of the 35/55 and 55/75 Gold tips.  30" 35/55 Gold tips with a 125gr tip are are weak out of my 50@29 Bob Lee.  A 30" 55/75 with a 160gr tip flies very good.

The 55/75 arrow weighs 500 grains too and that is plenty.


I don't have any experience with the CX 150's but the Easton/Beman 500's are too weak out of my Lee.

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 11:13:00 AM »
I prefer CX over GT but its up to you.  I prefer Axis over everything.  At your weight CX250 or GT55/75 or 400 spine Easton  I don't like weight tubes in GT, they tend to pop nocks out when they hit something hard.  

With both the CX and GT you can screw brass weights into the insert to add weight.  Either will work, it will just take a little fine tuning.

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Offline skidmark

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 11:40:00 AM »
Hi B-Dog, I shoot 53@28 and found the 55/75 GT about right.Shafts are 29" 100gr. brass insert and a 125 point. These fly slightly stiff out of my setup, waiting on heavier points to correct. BTW, arrows weigh 515 gr., no weight tubes. I was able to get the 35/55 to fly well, but had to use 100 gr. points and overall weight was way too light for me, about 380 gr...Dave

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 11:53:00 AM »
I'm shooting just about the same setup.  I have tried both GT 3555 and 5575 with my 50# @ 29" recurve.  With the 3555 at 30" there is not much left to tune with.  They shoot a little weak for me with 125 up front.  I dropped the wieght up front down to 90 grain field points and it moved the point of impact right to center when I was bare shaft tuning.  The 5575 are 32" and like Mike said, with the right wieght and cut to the right length they will fly true.  Sipsey River is a sponsor and they have really good deals on GT trads and CX heritage shafts.
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Offline jeff / sc

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 01:34:00 PM »
I'm shooting 29.25" CX 150's with 250 up front from my t-hawk and widow PL, both are 50#@28, but I'm drawing  about 48. I'm thinking that the 150's would work for you with less weight up front.

Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2007, 07:17:00 PM »
Jeff/sc has it right. The  Heritage 150s cut 29.5"s will fly well out of your recurve and longbow, ya just have to experiment with point weight. Ya did not say what recurve you are shooting, but out of the Tommy I would say 225 up front would be darn close maybe a tad more. If ya let me know what recurve I will also get ya darn close. Shawn
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Offline B-DOG

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 09:47:00 PM »
sounds like it may be the 150's. as for the recurve, i have a couple but am thinking of getting a 50# widow psr.

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 10:04:00 PM »
i shoot 52lbs. @27" draw.i use the cx 150 heritages,cut 29.5 to throat,wrap,4 5" gateways,and 175grns. worth of magnus 2 blade up front and these arrows fly awesome.bare shaft tune,broadhead tune,what ever.my opinion is the cx's are a better arrow than gold tips.if you weight each arrow from a dozen of cx's and a dozen of goldtips you will see right away the gold tips have a larger spread from arrow to arrow and we've found the cx's to be a bit more durable.i like the concept of the skinning easton axis shafts,i just don't like the ****,i'm sorry,hit technology.putting the broadhead or point right against the weekest part of the carbon arrow(un protected end) is STUUUUUUPID.if they would come out with a better insert and get rid of the one you have to enbed down the shaft,they might have something.beware of gimmicks like frequency dampners on them as well.good luck in your arrow adventures and one vote here for the cx heritages,good arrows.

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 05:06:00 PM »
OneStringer is right,

I shoot the axis 500,125 Stinger Broadhead,428 G total arrow weight.  But my setup is, Turkey Creek Longbow 43# @ 29 " 63" 189 fps

I really like them, but of course they are tuned to my bow.

I would think you would have to go with your poundage to the axis 400.  And I know how skinny they are, I never thought I would Robin Hood one, but two nights ago she and indoor range I Robin Hood Axis 500.  I was in a taken apart and it penetrated so deep in a left them.  The one arrow penetrated 1/3 down the shaft of the other one.

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Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 05:57:00 PM »
By the way my set-up is a 54# Arroyo at my 28.5" draw and I shoot Heritage 150s cut to 29.5"s with 175 grains up front. Shawn
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Offline Labs4me

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Re: trying carbon arrows
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 07:48:00 PM »
B Dog

My current favorite hunting bow is a 52.5# at 28.5" Black Widow recurve. I shoot 29.5" 5575 GT Traditionals using two 40 grain screw-in adapators behind a 125 grain Wensel Woodsman glue to a 75 grain screw-in steel adaptor. I could shoot this set up WITHOUT feathers if I wanted to. I hope THAT's an indication of just how well they fly! Widows are hard shooting bows though...
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