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Author Topic: 50's Style Unstrung Profile  (Read 755 times)

Offline HalfRack

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50's Style Unstrung Profile
« on: December 04, 2007, 05:33:00 PM »
Would anyone have a pic of an unstrung 50's style recurve such as a Kota Killum,  Robertson Petegrine, Mahaska, Bear, etc.  Some of us are starting a project to make one of these and we need some ideas for the limbs. I'm thinking the limb style varies from static to full working and everything in between, but want to see what's out there, new and old. Thanks in advance as always.

-Mike

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 07:24:00 PM »
Hi Mike,

I have some pics of my Great Northern Ghost (index grip) ...not sure how beneficial they'll be for you, but my camera is on the fritz, so what I had up on photobucket is all I got...  According to GN's advertising, the Ghost is based loosely on the old St. Charles Thunderbird design, and is a "semi-static" curve.

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Good luck with your project!!!

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 08:39:00 PM »
Is that ghost 60"?  Also how long is the riser?  Thanks,  Chad

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 08:55:00 PM »
It is a 60" bow.  The riser is 16" from where the fade-outs "feather" into the limbs.

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 09:18:00 PM »
Here's the profile of a 56" Ghost on bottom and two 58" ghosts on top...Doc

 

Strung profile of 60" Ghost

 

Shrew 'Lil Favorite & Drake Hunterflight 54"

 
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 09:29:00 PM »
Two more...

Robertson Peregrin 60"

 

St Charles Thunderbird 60"

 

 
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2007, 04:09:00 AM »
Many of the bows from the 50's and early 60's are sweeter shooting than most recurves from the 70's and newer when limbs got wide and tips were far too wide. I've  never understood why other than speed of cranking them out the door.

After my first time shooting a lightweight narrow limbed recurve with set forward limb tips the wider limbed large riser bows seem clunky though some are quite good they just don't have the thoroughbred appeal to me .

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2007, 09:05:00 AM »
Thanks guys. I've never had the opportunity to shoot one of those with set foreward limbs, that design seems to be the norm, except for the Shrew which looks like it could be similar to my Red Wing Hunter which is a sweet shooter.

-Mike

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2007, 07:29:00 PM »
HalfRack,  The Red Wing Hunter is my favorite 60's bow...Doc

 
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2007, 08:16:00 PM »
Dang Doc!
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 08:27:00 PM »
Alright Tippit, You got too many bows. You'll stress yourself trying to shoot them all or decide which one to shoot. You could sell some but I wouldn't want you to stress out deciding which ones. So here's a sugestion. Send me one so you won't be tempted to shoot it. Next year, send me another and I'll send the first back. Do this with all but two of your bows and you will make several people happy and your bows will get the proper amount of exersize they need. Wudda ya think?
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 09:21:00 PM »
Doc, The Ghost doesn't have the deflex that the Peregrin and some of the others have.  How does this affect shootability?  Chad

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 09:44:00 PM »
PrarrieDog,  Too many...what's that?  

Holm-Made,  I think the Ghost is one of the most under rated recurves.  It's very smooth and quite fast.  I had a 56" one cut in half with a Robnertson hinge, very nice to throw into duffle for airline travel...Doc
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2007, 10:24:00 AM »
Id love to find me Lefty red wing or one of those drakes I have the perfect spot for it...are the drakes still made??? thanks Marco  :campfire:
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2007, 11:02:00 AM »
bayoulongbowman,  
Harry Drake was known for his flight bows.  He set an arrow flight record of 1 mile 268 yards back in 1971...that's a long shot!!! His Hunterflight is as fast as most recurves today and very sought after as a hunting bow.  I believe Harry has past away, though I could be mistaken...Doc
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2007, 11:36:00 AM »
1 MILE ?! 268 yds?

Quiet, Doc. If you say that too loud they might not let us hunt with them in suburban areas anymore....   :readit:    :knothead:
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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 06:32:00 PM »
Wow Doc, them's some nice RWH's!  I guess your a fan! Mine has ultra skinny tapering limbs and wee little limb tips, ahead of it's time for sure.  I was very surprised when I layed my RWH on top of my Bingham plans and the two were pretty close in that respect, but the side to side taper was much different. The lam taper was different too, Bingham wants .002/in and the RWH was all parallels. Goes to show you tapered lams are not necessarily needed for a good shooting bow.

Chad, hows bout I lay out both set foreward limbs and set back, then send the layout to our recurve consultant in ND to get his take on it? Are you listening in, Brad?

Thanks for the help guys, seeing those unstrung profiles helps a bunch, if anyone has any more I would appreciate seeing them.

-Mike

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 08:28:00 PM »
Mike, Sounds good to me.  Maybe you can also layout an in betweener? Chad

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2007, 10:29:00 AM »
Mike
I'm watching.
And Tippet, what a great collection of bows. I too have always been facinated by the lightness and simplicity of the 50s and 60s style bows.

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Re: 50's Style Unstrung Profile
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2007, 01:28:00 PM »
Ok, here's what I came up with, I put 2 different limb profiles on the layout, anyone hazard a guess as to which we should try first and what characteristics each might have.  

After we do some R&D, we'll probably build one or more at the Minnesota Bow Building event that Chad has. Thanks.

 

-Mike

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