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Offline damascusdave

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #100 on: June 30, 2009, 09:22:00 AM »
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Originally posted by 450 marlin:
Picked up a 1959 Kodiak Special..silver coin
70" 50#  serial #5VX26
Nice way to celebrate the middle of its 50 th year.
LH or RH?
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #101 on: June 30, 2009, 09:33:00 AM »
Roy, based on the serial numbers on the other 59 Specials listed, you may have a 60.  

When I look at the pictures in your other thread, it appears that the belly of the sight window is wood instead of glass, which would make it a 59.  

Maybe a closeup of the riser's belly would define whether it's a 59 or 60.

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #102 on: June 30, 2009, 03:30:00 PM »
A few more pictures Serial #5VX26 Silver Coin
22 stamp (maybe a carry over to 1960)

 

 

 

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #103 on: June 30, 2009, 07:10:00 PM »
I bet that's it.  Cool

Looks to be in great shape.

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #104 on: July 02, 2009, 02:20:00 PM »
Can this thread be given a sticky and be posted at the top of the forum?  Great thread
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2009, 09:20:00 PM »
Finally -

It only took 4 months and 5 days to get this photograph of these

1961 - 1967 Kodiak Specials - all 66"

Just loaded this photograph on the first page of this thread so the most important information is on first page.

 
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2009, 10:42:00 PM »
Wade, any thoughts on the 70" 50# KS that Roy posted pics of above?

Nontypical serial number for a 59 KS, but no glass on the sight window belly which would make it a 59 KS, unlike the 60 KS which had glass on the belly of the sight window.

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #107 on: July 07, 2009, 11:50:00 PM »
Trap - Roy's 70" KS is 1959...

First and foremost is the frame or form a bow is built on.. Roy's bow is built on a 1959 form...

It has the 1959 riser configuration and the 1959 narrow grip...

Those things mentinoed above are permanent and not cosmetic.

Cosmetic features, such as serial numbers and coins can be anything, especially if the bow is made during the period when one year's model is transitioning to the next years model.

As I have said many times, anything could have been written on any bow by anyone at any point in time... There are dozens of reasons that a serial number might not fall in line with other 1959s... mismarked on purpose or by accident, refinished, not finished until later, special order, bow set back and found later, then finished with different number, and the list goes on and on. A bow like the 1959 KS with the flaired inset, could have been started and routed for the inset, then much later could have been completed.

If you can dream up a crazy reason for a mis-marked bow, it probably really happened.

The bows that do not fall in line with the other serial numbers, only prove the point that some bows were marked differently and all do not fall in line, which is the legitimate reason not to place much store in serial numbers for dating bows.

Truth is stranger than fiction. Odd things that happen in a factory environment are stranger than everyday life.

Talk with a retiree who worked in the same "built from scratch" manufacturing factory their entire life. They will tell you stories you never dreamed could be real about items that made it out the door as legitimate products and lunch box specials that went out the back door, or worst yet, stuff that was sold as scrap but purchased by employees who knew the products were really good.

Then talk with customer service or or the technical support personal who are out in the field and see the products that do no comply with with specifications and return those products to the factory and exchange them.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2009, 01:25:00 AM »
"If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less" Gen. Eric Shinsheki

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2009, 01:29:00 AM »
Thanks Wade,  

The bow fits really nicely on the rack with my other 59 Kodiak Specials.  One to go.  A 68 incher will complete the set for me.  

Then maybe I can work on all those 59 Kodiak variations  ;)  

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #110 on: July 08, 2009, 11:43:00 AM »
Trap,

If you are going to put together one complete year of Kodiak Specials, 1959 would be my first choice too.

You are starting to make me feel sorry for you because you don't have a 68" Kodiak Special and I have two. I would send you one, but the risers of these two bows have different woods, so would hate to sell either bow.

When you get to the point that you feel you are desperate, let me know. I will loan you the 68" with golden rosewood slabs until you can find a 68".

Keep me posted on the vitals reading on your "desperate" meter.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2009, 11:57:00 AM »
Whats the chance there is a "61" in zebrawood out there looking for a new home.
 
  I run a shelter for wayward, neglected or unwanted zebrawood riser bows and there is a few openings for those most in need.

  Right now I have a Grizz, Tigercat, Bearcat, Cub and a Littlebear in zebrawood and would like to get a model of all the bears offered in zebrawood.
                           
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #112 on: July 08, 2009, 12:56:00 PM »
Shep,

These are some extra bows, let me know if you are looking for zebrawood bows that need refinish work. The 61 KS at the far left of the photo is 32#, 66" and is a candidate for a new home...

 
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #113 on: July 08, 2009, 01:20:00 PM »
Wade, what's the story on that upside down early 59 in the pic above?  Refinnish candidate?  Wall hanger?  

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #114 on: July 08, 2009, 01:56:00 PM »
Trap,

The upside down 59 story, 60", 55#, purpleheart SW, crack in lamination at lower limb right at the fadeout and into glass on back. Was supposedly "repaired" by someone. Have strung it and drawn it, but I don't trust it. If used as a shooter, it would probably become a basket of splinters in short order.

Just another one of my many questionable bow investments that turned out to be less than what it was thought to be when acquired.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #115 on: July 08, 2009, 03:21:00 PM »
:(  That blows.....or would  :(  

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #116 on: July 08, 2009, 04:43:00 PM »
If someone gets into the 59  Kodiak re-limb-ing business, I will have some work for them...
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #117 on: July 08, 2009, 04:49:00 PM »
Wade...as Glenn would say about the 59...."I'll give you 5 bucks for this "...Hink..  :p
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2009, 05:27:00 PM »
And just like my standard reply to Glenn's $5 offers, my reply is ...

"I'll give you $10 for yours".
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #119 on: July 09, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »
Wade
Mike Macready of Maddog Archery is redoing a KS  for Ray Roan.
He does nice work.
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