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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #220 on: November 02, 2014, 01:27:00 PM »
MarkG -

Nice clean looking 59 KS
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #221 on: November 02, 2014, 01:30:00 PM »
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #222 on: November 02, 2014, 01:34:00 PM »
Thanks Wade, it was love at first sight.
Your collection is amazing by the way!
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #223 on: November 02, 2014, 01:36:00 PM »
What do you make of the early style Maple sandwich and the numerical prefixed serial # ? They must have done that to the heavyweight bows, the serial number that is.
Just noticed my bow is the heaviest weight 59 KS so far.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #224 on: November 02, 2014, 02:22:00 PM »
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #225 on: November 02, 2014, 02:24:00 PM »
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #226 on: November 02, 2014, 07:39:00 PM »
MarkG -

Cool riser with the extra maple lamination. Don't ever recall seeing a 59 KS with a riser like that.

I assume the extra maple lamination ends at the fadeout. Is that correct?
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #227 on: November 02, 2014, 09:17:00 PM »
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #228 on: November 02, 2014, 09:20:00 PM »
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #229 on: November 02, 2014, 09:23:00 PM »
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #230 on: November 02, 2014, 09:26:00 PM »
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #231 on: November 02, 2014, 09:32:00 PM »


Thanks Wade ☺️
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #232 on: November 03, 2014, 06:25:00 AM »
MarkG,

That is the coolest 59 KS ever.

The extra maple lamination goes between the ends of the fadeouts and continues as a limb lamination.

Does the extra lamination go all the way to the end of the limb tips?
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #233 on: November 03, 2014, 08:31:00 AM »
i wonder if the other heavyweight 59 KS have this for increased poundage or is this purely aesthetics?
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #234 on: November 03, 2014, 08:36:00 AM »


All the way to the tips Wade.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #235 on: November 03, 2014, 12:13:00 PM »
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Originally posted by MarkG:
i wonder if the other heavyweight 59 KS have this for increased poundage or is this purely aesthetics?
The heaviest KS that I have, which is similar to yours, is a 65# 1960. It simply has two thick maple laminations rather then three.

I have several 1959 Kodiaks with multiple laminations on the belly side of the riser next to the glass that continue to the limb tips, but the laminations are not between the fade outs.

I would almost have to guess that when the laminations of your bow were glued up, they were unintentionally laid down with thin maple and belly taper laminations reserved. Now, well over 59 years after the fact, it is perhaps impossible to ever know what was intentional and unintentional.

Either way, intentional or unintentional, you have a cool bow.

I have seen two other Bear bows with reversed laminations. One was reversed only on one limb. Of course, that was an obvious error.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #236 on: November 04, 2014, 09:06:00 AM »
Thanks for your kind words, I think it is a cool bow too, it was love at first sight!
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #237 on: November 04, 2014, 11:18:00 AM »
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Originally posted by MarkG:
...When you send your bow in for warranty, Bear returns it with a star stamped in it and erases the serial number...
MarkG -

To my knowledge there is no 1960 era Bear Factory documentation known to authenticate any of the various stampings found on Bear bows from this era, "star", "+", etc.

However, there is much contradictory speculation about these stampings, some of which, is obviously in error.

It seems that you have been told a combination of two generally unrelated events,
1) factory star stamping and
2) removing serial numbers.  

I have seen and presently own several star stamped Bear bows, all of which, have the original serial numbers completely intact.

My limited experience, indicates that your bow is the norm, having a star stamp with the serial number intact.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #238 on: November 04, 2014, 12:00:00 PM »
I've read (or heard) from some of the Bear collectors or "historians" that the "star" stamp and serial number removal were common for the infamous 1961 models and all that stressed glass.

So Wade, what's your take?  Got any '61's with the star AND serial still intact?.

BTW, it's great to see you posting here again.  I'll have to return regularly to continue my Bear education.
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Re: Bear Kodiak Specials 1955-1967 Identification Guide
« Reply #239 on: November 04, 2014, 12:09:00 PM »
Lon,

Yes, here at the Arsenal there are two 61's with the star stamp and serial number.... both have some vertical stress cracks in the limbs.

6F176 - 60" - 70# - Solid Bubinga Riser
26E169 - 60" - 53# - Solid Bubinga Riser

I do not have any 61 Kodiaks with the serial number removed, although I have some other Bear bows with the serial number intentionally removed and some with the serial number faded away or unreadable.
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