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Offline Phillip King

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Arrows of historical significants
« on: March 11, 2009, 09:27:00 PM »
I purchased these Arrows Quiver and 2 bows recently, Just wondering if they may be Historically important. Bows have no visible marks and are untillered with risers popped off.

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Offline cornfed

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 09:47:00 PM »
The arrows on the right look as though they have plastic points.If so that may very well indicate the era of WW2 manufacture.

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 10:08:00 PM »
Plastic nocks were not used until 1949. Judging from the pics some of the arrows have self nocks.

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2009, 02:42:00 AM »
Phillip King - Checked your photographs and do not see anything that I could possibly recognize as being historically significant. Actually the best things I see are the Elephant Foot Blunts. If you have a set of calipers, can you give me the length and OD at the body of the blunts?

Bjorn - I would be interested to hear your logic behind your statement, "Plastic nocks were not used until 1949."
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Offline Phillip King

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 03:19:00 AM »
l & OD are 1/3/16* 3/8 to 7/16 thanks all.
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Offline Phillip King

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2009, 10:53:00 PM »
I just notice on the Broken Arrow With the Ben Pearson Stamp on it Is pencil Marked Walt Wilhelm
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Offline johnnyrazorhead

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2009, 11:07:00 PM »
Now we're talkin'.

Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 12:38:00 AM »
The Walt Wilhelm and Ken Wilhelm arrows that I have and those that I have seen were hand made by Walt and Ken. Some are signed some are not.

An arrow manufactured by Ben Pearson and signed by Walt Wilhelm would still be a nice item.

You would need to authenticate the pencil marking as being Walt Wilhelm's before it could be considered legitimate. Even then it could not be authenticated as one of Walt's personal arrows unless you have additional evidence to indicated such a claim.

I have seen many arrows marked with names of old bowmen, some were marked (labeled may be more accurate) in modern times by modern collectors. Some marked arrows were simply autographed as mementos at shows or shoots etc, and are are not the actual personal arrow of the person who autographed the arrow. The difference between the historical significance is tremendous.  

I have several of Walt Wilhelm's original signatures on items such as arrows, arm guards, and paper.

If you want to post a close up of the Walt Wilhelm name on your arrow, I may be able to identify it as being like one of those that I have....
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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 11:21:00 AM »
Hey Wade
Need your address to send you a Po-Mac arrow.

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Offline JavelinaHink

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2009, 11:47:00 AM »
Omaha Nebraska post office is down...please mail through Po Box 35 Ida, Mi. 48140.....trying to help Wade
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Offline d. ward

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 11:53:00 AM »
whoops sorry Bill powers out in Ida Mi.Wade said ship to Don Ward 220 SW........I just had to bd

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2009, 11:59:00 AM »
Don.....First guy never has a chance...thats good.
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Offline kurtbel5

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2009, 09:38:00 PM »
Javalina H send me your addy I'll send one your way.(for some reason, I thought you were a Texan)

BD Ive seen pics of your arrow bucket(s),it would just get lost in there.Unless you have a short bucket, behind all the tall, full ones

You are both true blue, archery collector friends, taking one for Wade like that.

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2009, 09:55:00 PM »
Yap Kurt you can count on the old bowdoc to take one for the team if need be bro.bd

Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 01:59:00 AM »
Boy, I have been on the darn phone most of the day, but I see Bill and Doc are looking out for me just about as well as my buddies out west...

Kurt - Sent you a PM. Trust me these guys know my mailing address well enough to not even have to even look up the zip code.
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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »
Speaking of old arrows, and not trying to hijack this thread, when were wooden blunts used?  I'm at work and can't do photos now, but I'll try tonight.

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Offline Phillip King

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 01:34:00 PM »
That all good , the Pencil mark is printed Not a signature. Talk about Hijack a post.
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Offline Phillip King

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2009, 01:36:00 PM »
Well, I guess when they Didn't have other materials to use for blunts?
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Offline Phillip King

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2009, 01:39:00 PM »
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Offline kurtbel5

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Re: Arrows of historical significants
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2009, 05:32:00 PM »
Hi Phillip,

Hijacked threads are how we all learn, never know what will come about when your threads hijacked.lol

Someone might have offered you some cash for it,or even known the man who made it, never know.

Sounds like a picture for Wade is in order,since he made a nice offer to help,and he does kinda knows his stuff.

It would answer your questions.

Are you thinking of starting a collection?

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