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Offline jcar315

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2009, 08:48:00 AM »
Wade, you are spot on with your assessment of the situation IMO. As the person who invented the "quiver" and the "shooting glove" he certainlly had an inventers mind. Fred Bear was the first bowhunter I was ever exposed to as a young kid and still is what I see in my minds eye when the word bowhunter is used. Just a giant in our sport and I think of him every day when I see these bows here.
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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2009, 11:43:00 AM »
John C. - Glad you feel as I do.
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Offline JavelinaHink

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2009, 06:13:00 PM »
Here's another picture of the system Fred used, I was able to take the insert out so to see threads......Hink
 
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2009, 07:08:00 PM »
Hink - When you got the head and shaft, was the shaft already split so that threaded nylon insert bushing could be removed?
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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2009, 07:26:00 PM »
Wade,
Yep.....that's the way it was when I took it off the arrow board to clean it up.

I wonder if he might have made them in different size's, these two look to be the same with out taking the Lion Arrow out of the sealed case.

I do have field point for Glenn St Charles system and might have others if I find the box of arrows they where in.
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2009, 11:34:00 PM »
Hink - Yes they were made in different sizes.

I say that because the head and arrow in the first photograph of this thread has a smaller OD aluminum adapter then the one I have which Fred used on his 1966 Polar Bear Hunt.

When we get together next week at Compton, we'll have to document the OD of these arrows and adapters.

I'm looking forward to seeing your field point for the St Charles system.
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2009, 11:55:00 PM »
Doug - Sorry I missed answering your question about your arrow designated Magnum 312.

In 1968, when Bear introduced the Converta Point they were advertised in these sizes...

Magnum .308 for 40/50 lb bows
Magnum .312 for 50/60 lb bows
Magnum .316 for 60/70 lb bows
Magnum .320 for 70/80 lb bows

These arrows have a non-metallic, clear/yellowish nylon type insert that did not protrude from the end of the aluminum shaft.

Over the years, I have sort of hoarded original Bear Magnum Arrows and usually pick them up when I get a chance. I don’t really collect metal arrows, but a few metal arrows interest me, especially those made pre-1940s. The Magnums with original inserts interest me because I used them when they were being sold.  

I really haven't sat down and researched the original Magnum arrow at length but noticed in the 1971 Bear Catalog it appears that a different insert bushing is shown, one that is made of black material, one that is shown appears to protrude from the end of the shaft. The 1971 Catalog also mentions that for heavier bows, the .324 and .328 are available on special order.

From the catalogs, it appears that the original Magnum insert was only offered from 1968 to 1970. Experience has taught that catalog photographs and illustrations can be misleading so that may not be accurate. Sometimes the text can be equally misleading.

Don't see mention of the Magnum .309 in the 1968 to 1970 Bear Catalogs, but I do have a few of them and they have the original clear/yellowish non-metallic insert. Could be a newer shaft with an original insert.

Maybe someone seriously collects Bear Magnum arrows, and knows how the Magnum .309 with the nylon insert bushing fits in to the scheme of things.
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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2009, 06:21:00 AM »
Thanks Wade to bad for me I let my 7 year old daughter shoot them  and we lost one in the grass. Guess I better put them up.

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2009, 07:36:00 AM »
Doug - You can just send them to me, I will make sure no more of them get lost.
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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2009, 07:53:00 PM »
Wade I only have 3 left. Got anything to trade .

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2009, 08:29:00 PM »
Doug you better get back out there and get back to searching that grass!!!

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2009, 09:04:00 PM »
I been looking for the last month and can't find it. Probaly will get the mower out this weekend and mow the grass down to the groung the only bad part is the feathers are probaly runied by now.

Doug

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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2009, 10:20:00 PM »
Doug - I have thousands of extra things to trade. What are you looking for?
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Re: Fred Bear – 1966 Arrowhead Attaching Means
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2009, 10:32:00 PM »
Wade I would REALLY like a box of nice Bear Arrow's and I know it will cost me. I will be at compton also.


Doug

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