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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2009, 08:32:00 AM »
Hink -

Yes, 4x4, 65,000, extended cab, silverado, towing package

Probably have to trade it in for something else before Greg would consider a truck swap for the Exp Special...
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2009, 09:24:00 AM »
Wade- Here is that Kodiak special I believe you are referring to with the laminations glued up on an angle.I wonder if this bow was a Bill Stewart project.
 
 

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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2009, 10:23:00 AM »
That is Awsome!  :thumbsup:    :clapper:  

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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2009, 10:46:00 AM »
Hey Guys, What does EXP mean??  Help a Newbie out.

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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2009, 11:03:00 AM »
Mickey - Exp = Expermintal

John - On your 58 Special, because of the alternating colors of edge glued strips, it is easy to see the seams.

It is hard to see any seams on Greg's Exp Magnum. When I just now magnified the photographs, it looks like the alternating colors are very irregular and are mostly in the grain of the wood. There may be one seam visible nearly the center of the heel of the grip. Hard to tell for sure from the photographs.

Regardless of how they were made, it is another exceptional bow.
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2009, 12:38:00 PM »
This is bow-porn!

I am in awe, honestly. I officially hate you my friend!

GREAT find. Oh, and MORE PICTURES!!! (Please)
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2009, 04:55:00 PM »
John  very cool EXP. those laminations on a diagonal give a very unique. I wouldn't doubt if it is a Bill Stewart, it seems he was a master at laminations. From what I can tell he started at Bear in 59/60. I once found a thread where, if I'm not mistaken, you mentioned having a friend who worked with Stewart at Bear archery. If so I wonder If we could figure out more accurately when Bill started there.

Wade   There does not seem to be any seems in the "irregular colored wood". One of the next bows has 17 laminations wide and 7 in the accent stripe if I counted them right. AND, one thats coming up on the Wing thread later has 51 lams. wide! (If I counted right)

OK so in the 1963 catalog is a pic of a real pretty Grizzly marked EXP. This one never got back to Mr. Stewart or someone else got it or .... Damn! So for 63 there is no EXP.'s. He did keep one of each of the bows he worked on that year though. All beautiful, like new condition. A Grizzly, a Cub, a Tamerlane, and a Kodiak Special. I'll post these pics when we are done with the EXP's and prototypes.

1964 also nothing EXP. Well maybe, I think one of the mystery bows might fit here. There are a couple that I can't place in the line-up, I'll post them at the end of the Bear EXP's and hopefully with some help from all collective knowedge here we can decide what the heck they are.

1965 Tamerlane Wavy Limb EXP. 69" 37 1/2# 6E634
Rosewood/Black
 
1965 Tamerlane Wavy Limb EXP. 69" 38#  6A347 III
Browm Formica (box description)w/laminated accent stripe
             

Please note the term "wavy Limb" used on the box. This was later refered too as the Multi-cam limb patented by Bill Stewart
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2009, 05:26:00 PM »
Greg - More cool bows!!!

It is great that the Wavy Limb is documented on the box, or we would all be guessing on those two for a long time.

A very appropriate name.

Great that both have serial numbers too.

I don't collect Tamerlanes, and have owned very few over the years, but don't remember ever seeing any that were marked at the 1/2#.
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2009, 06:22:00 PM »
Greg-If my bow is a 1958 model,and Bill started working at Bear in 1959,I wonder if he did work on my bow or if it was someone else.My friend didn't start working for Bear until the 1960's.I will see if I can find anything out as far as when Bill may have actually started working at Bear.This is some interesting stuff.Those bows are remarkable to say the least.Keep 'em coming.

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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2009, 06:39:00 PM »
Yes,very interesting
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2009, 10:06:00 PM »
This is why I come here. Great stuff guys.A whole lotta learnin going on.

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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2009, 11:29:00 PM »
WOW!!!!! awesome  :clapper:    :clapper:  thank you for sharing
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2009, 11:53:00 PM »
id love to have that many bears.  :pray:
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »
John  That would be great if you could ask your friend about Bills time at Bear. From what I've read it was two different times of about seven years apiece. The first one was 59-60 to 67-68.

Brandon   All the info I've seen said Bill Stewart invented the wavy (multi-cam) limb while working at Bear. Bowdoc posted that he heard from ? that Bill built these Tamerlanes and Fred blew a gasket and said he didnt want to see it on his bows again!(or something like that) Maybe Bowdoc will tell some more of his Bill Stewart knowledge...  :pray:  


1966 Kodiak Super Magnum 48" 37# #5N1

Mr Stewart must have put this unbelievable serial number 1 Super Magnum away as soon as it came off the line. The finish is nearly flawless.

This bow was a big deal in the 66 catalog. I'm going to post this ad (hope thats OK) because the hype of the shortest hunting bow was such a big deal and the description of the new materials is there. Also check out the serial number on the bow in the ad, 5N4.

The flash really washed out the real color of the silkscrean. It is kind of flourescent green.

After I had the Super Mag for awhile I saw the catalog ad and noticed the case that came with the bow. A couple of 48" cases were included with the collection and this one has a faint 37 written on the tag. I'm pretty sure it's the original case for 5N1! Inside of it I found Two brand new strings.
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2009, 10:09:00 PM »
Here's the pic with the bag.
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2009, 10:39:00 PM »
Greg-Chances are my friend worked with Bill Stewart on his second stint at Bear during the 1967-68 season.He wasn't there in 59-60.I hope to see him soon,I'll try to see if he can remember any dates.This is great stuff.

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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2009, 10:48:00 PM »
That is one sweet Kodiak Super Magnum  :thumbsup:
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2009, 03:01:00 AM »
This one should have come before the #1 Super Magnum.

 After reading all the information about the 48" and how it was said that it couldn't be made, then how it was the shortest most spectacular bow ever made etc , It was very exciting to open this box and find this sweet little 46" Super Mag EXP./Proto?

Kodiak Super Magnum EXP./Prototype? 46" 50#

Unknown wood- 21 laminations of alternating light and dark wood.

brown glass front and back.

no white caps.

So is this the Super Magnums little-big brother?

I wonder if Bear ever built a shorter hunting weight bow than this one? This thing is tiny!

             
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2009, 03:36:00 AM »
Man-O-Man.....those are sweet...just love the black....but the green & brown is a looker also.  Some nice bows you have for sure, thanks for the posting...nice to look at....Hink..  :archer:
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Re: Bear-ied Treasure *New Addition to the Treasure pg 9!!!*
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2009, 07:25:00 AM »
Thanks for sharing. That is an unbelievable find! What a piece of history!
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