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Offline bearbender

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1959 Kodiak Question
« on: July 23, 2009, 08:16:00 PM »
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  http://cgi.****.com/ws/****ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320399688547

 I was watching this listed as 17#@26" and then it was possibly 77#@ 26",but my resources from old Bear catalogs list the 56" to be 25-60#s and the 64" bows to be 30-70#s unless special ordered.

What are the chances of a 77#@26" bow?
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Offline d. ward

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 08:29:00 PM »
Yes it could have been 77@26 your pic did not work got another.bd
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 08:44:00 PM »
It reads 47# @26", look again.

77# @ 26" Kodiak is possible.

100# @ 27" Kodiak is on the wall here.
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Offline Hoof

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 08:55:00 PM »
Looking at the added pics in the listing it looks like #77 to me ...
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Offline Cody Roiter

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 09:00:00 PM »
Just look closer and you will see it to me looks like 47@26. And that about all I can make out.. Still looks like a nice bow...

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Offline Earl E. Nov...mber

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 09:06:00 PM »
That should keep her horses fed for a while.
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 10:11:00 PM »
Ken - I agree. Kind of reminds you of the days when all 59 Kodiaks were going for 4 figures.

Hoof, I'm willing to place a friendly wager that it is 47 rather than 77.

I have an extra 56" 1959 Kodiak to put up (its LH)...
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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 10:24:00 PM »
$1580!!!!! WOW!!! I guess I won't be in the 59 Kodiak market as soon as I had hoped.

Chris, I have to agree with Wade looks like a 47 to me too. Did someone here get it so we can get the final answer?
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Offline Migra Bill

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 10:36:00 PM »
According to the Bear catalogue "special orders" of over 75 pounds were not available on 56" models - only 60's.
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Offline Hoof

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 10:36:00 PM »
Just by the pics she sent me to the house,I tried to zoom it and it looks like a 77 to me but eitherway I didnt buy it. It must have looked that way to someone else too...  :)  why else would it bring that much?
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 11:03:00 PM »
Bill - For 1959, the 64" length (not 60") was the only length that bows over 75# could be ordered.

However, as I'm sure you know, there are known exceptions to this and other catalog statements about weights. Especially by just a pound or two.

Hoof - I don't know the identity of either of the two high bidders, so could not say why they bid that much.

The 56" 1959 Kodiak is a pretty rare bow and usually sells pretty good, but one that rough usually doesn't go for nearly that much.

Usually the 75# and up Kodiaks don't sell as well as the 55#-60#, simply because there is more interest in bow 20# lighter than 75#.
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Offline Hoof

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 11:20:00 PM »
Seemed like one I seen earlier this year went in the $750 range and didnt have nearly the scares if I remember right. No matter I hope they enjoy it,that's what it is all about I guess....Thanks Wade for the input.
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 01:17:00 AM »
Hoof - I saw a few 56" 1959 and 1960 Kodiaks that sold earlier this year. All went for far less than this recent 56" 1959.

I did not notice anything unusual looking about the bow, but that sure doesn't mean that my eye didn't miss something.

Perhaps the two highest bidders know something that most of us do not about the history of the bow. Will be interesting to hear if any thing unusual is associated with it.
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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 10:13:00 AM »
When I spoke with the seller about the bows history, she told me she picked it up in a yard sale for $35... She seemed to be a very nice Lady.I guess it was just a boxing match of sorts? I've been in one of them before myself...
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Offline jcar315

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 10:33:00 AM »
I sure wish I had been the THAT yard sale. Just came back from 2 with only some Tupperware to show for my efforts.
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 06:25:00 PM »
John - Do you collect Tupperware?
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2009, 03:16:00 PM »
Jim while most of those 76#-100# Kodiaks have a wedge sight window I have seen one exception and would not be surprised to see other exceptions.

If it was 77# and a 1959 Kodiak, according to the 1959 catalog, it should have been 64" and Special Ordered. To my knowledge the catalog does not state nor show anything about a wedge sight window.

It is pretty clear in the 1959 Catalog what weights were available in which lengths...

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56" - 25 to 60 lbs.
60" - 30 to 65 lbs.
64" - 30 to 75 lbs.

Heavier weights, 76 to 100 lbs available only in 64" length on special order at $10.00 extra.

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Remember, there are known exceptions to Bear's catalog specifications as far a maximum weights, particularly just one or two pounds.

Have never seen a 56" nor a 60" 1959 Kodiak with a wedge sight window.

Have you?

As mentioned earlier, I have seen a 1959 Kodiak over 76# that was not a wedge sight window.

There frequently seems to be a least one exception to any rule established about Bear Bows.

Frankly nothing would surprise me as far as exceptions.

So hopefully this evening, we will see someone post a 56" or 60" 1959 Kodiak Wedge sight window.

The 60" Wedge Sight Window was made in the 1961 and 1962 Kodiaks, Al Reader had both and I have both. Have also seen other 60" Wedge Sight Window from these two years.

In my limited experience, collecting the 1959 to 1962 wedge sight window bows is one of the most difficult facets of collecting one piece Bear bows.
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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2009, 03:27:00 PM »
Wade, Not sure if I would be considered a tupperware "collector" or not but the nice lady down the street was having a garage sale and could not pass up a set of about 20+ of the 1970's era snap top storage containers. I have alot of misc stuff sitting around the shop and thought that might help clean it up. Now I just have a bunch of maze yellow, harvest brown, and burnt orange containers sitting on the floor and all my stuff is still on the counter!!

PS I would much rather she had a 1959 LH Kodiak sitting there for $35!
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2009, 03:40:00 PM »
John - Good thinking, Tupperware would be great for storage containers for misc stuff in the shop. Never cared for the taste of food that was stored in it.
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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: 1959 Kodiak Question
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2009, 07:25:00 PM »
Tom - Sorry, guess we should have explained all that so everyone knew what specifically we were talking about by Wedge Sight Window... Guess a picture is still worth a thousand words, I'm sure you can figure out which one is the Wedge Sight Window. Tom, if you happen to have a few of those laying around, lots of crazy collectors will likely be contacting you...

 
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