Broadhead and arrow ID?

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Could one of the broadhead collectors tell me what head this is? The arrow is also really different material. Anyone know who made it? Thanks, Greg

[Ron Roehrick]

Thats a Gus Adkins BF-1 with pointed tip, 0542.000 in the Broadheads Identification guide.Its a fairly rare broadhead. The arrow appears to be fiberglass shaft.

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Thanks Ron,  I've got to get one of Wades Broadhead ID guides. Has this one been sharpend out of the original shape very much?

I agree the shaft is fiberglass, but its pattern or texture is pretty unique looking. Hopefully someone knows something about it. Greg

[raghorn]

Pretty good chance the arrow is a Fleetwood, from Denver. I have several here. If you look real close there should be a line from the tip to the nock that wraps around the shaft. I believe these were made by wrapping a sheet of fiberglass & resin around a steel rod/manderal.

[Wade Phillips]

Greg, You can compare your head to the Gus Adkins BF-1 on the left and get an idea of how much yours was sharpened.

 

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Ron    I don't see any seam line at all. The grain of the glass appears to be running straight. It's a pretty heavy arrow. I'll get a weight and better pic of the glass later today.


That's perfect Wade. Thank you for posting that pic.   Greg

[raghorn]

Here's a close up of the seam on one of my arrows.
It is really a fine line, just below the white tag.  
 

[Wade Phillips]

Originally posted by raghorn:
... I believe these were made by wrapping a sheet of fiberglass & resin around a steel rod/manderal.

Ron - I have to ask about the "steel rod/manderal" as I have no knowledge of the manufacturing process for fiber glass shafts. However, I can visualize an automated process where the end of a roll of woven glass fiber cloth is wrapped about a mandrel, then cut, impregnated with resin, then forced off the rod or having the rod collapse inside the finished shaft and being easily pushed off. An over simplification I'm sure. Did you talk with some one from Fleetwood who was familiar with the process? If so, it would be very interesting to know the exact details about how the shafts were made.

Just call me crazy for wanting to know the process.

[raghorn]

Wade,
That is pretty much how I understood them to be made. I don't remember where I heard that. No documentation to support it. I think that even some of the new carbons maybe done the same way. The Fleetglass( Fleetwood) was sized in deflection numbers.
I have some Micro-Flite arrows from the early 60s that were stored upright in a divided arrow box in a garage attic. The upper part of the shaft that was not inside the box, is a dark brown and the surface glaze is gone making the surface rough. This occured from the heat, I'm sure. This upper part of the shaft could be confused with a Fleetglas with the exception of the roughness.
The Shakespeare Rifled Glass shaft had the fiberglass spiral wrapped plus it was a tapered shaft.The sizing on this shaft was stated;"Spine Weight 45".
I have a dark green(?) woven glass arrow that has  stamped on the side "Grand Junction Archery"  and "K 8" both in white ink(?). Gordon glass was sized using letters only and they went up a "J" size not a "K".  I can't find a seam on this shaft, and don't know who made it.
Later Browning, and Graphlex shafts were also a dark color.
Micro flight were sized with numbers-6,7,8 etc.
Bear introduced "Bearglas" in 1957 until 1959. It is stated in the ads as a tan color.
In 1960 Bear now advertises these as Micro-Flite (shafts by Laminex).In 1962 Bear shows the Micro-Flite(shafts by Sila-Flex).
I have another glass/plastic(?) arrow with an Ace broadhead. It is a creamy tan/orange color and is translucent so a person can that it is hollow. It has a wood plug on the tip end that is tapered for the broadhead. This is not a woven material. Molten material drawn through a die?

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Ron   I don't see any seam at all on this arrow. I wonder if the finish on yours isn't alot better allowing the seam too be seen easier. The grain seems to be about the same as your Fleetwood. It weighs 585 grains with the Adkins BF-1 @ 29 3/4". The cut on the back feathers is unique among my small collection. Have you seen this shape before?  Thanks, Greg

   

[Shane Reed]

I picked up 4 arrows with Broadheads. I know that they are ace, and the best I can tell is that they are the standard. I need a collectors help on these heads. I have the old book, and on page A-15 is showing the standards. You may not be able to see in the pictures, but these heads have very fine jagged edge, and not sure if it is the factory sharpening or if they were what is considered serrated edge as described in the book. The lettering ACE is upside down like in my book. I will let you guys give me more info as I am new to this.

 

 

 

[Shane Reed]

I have to weigh head and took off arrow. Closest I see is 0054 in book.

[bowhunterfrompast]

Shane....it can be difficult, even after measuring and weighing, to identify some heads because of the variations.

I can't comment about the serrations, except that they are very fine from the factory. Plus I don't have one to compare. Maybe a more experienced collector will be able to answer that question.

[Shane Reed]

Richard,
  The head came in at 165 grains. I am sending one to another collector named Terry Robinson.