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Offline CrookedStick

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BDay Bear quiver issues
« on: September 22, 2009, 08:21:00 PM »
Hey guys,

I finally got it all together for my anniversary hunt:
-Feisty '59 Grizzly
-Fantastic Feather rest/sideplate from Trap in MO
-Amazing Arrows from Ron in Colorado
-Righteous Razorheads also from Ron
-Neato Nimrod quiver from Roy here in MI

All coming together from around the nation to hunt within an hour of the point of origin of the whole kit and kaboodle.

Now the problem: The Nimrod does not have the cuff/cover/extention on top. Not really an issue because I normally run a back quiver anyway and that's what I am used to.

Trouble is this Nimrod back quiver does not contour to your back to quiet the arrows like my normal back quiver, but rather lets them rattle terribly as I walk.

Soooo what was used back in the '50s to keep those arrows from rattling during the hunt? Or is that why they stopped production 50 years ago!?

Thanks
Bernie

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 09:29:00 PM »
Bernie,

The Nimrod should have boar bristles in the top of the quiver to keep the arrows from rattling.

Hair on sheep skin around the top was also used on many quivers back in the day.

As a matter of fact, old William VanVorst lined the top of his back quiver with sheep skin in 1937 to take Michigan's first deer taken on a bow license...
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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 09:35:00 PM »
Cool thing is.  You can easily sneak up on sheep even with a noisy quiver.    ;)  

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 09:54:00 PM »
Trap - How does it come to pass that you know you can easily sneak up on sheep even with a noisy quiver?
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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 10:30:00 PM »
My work puts me in close proximity with them quite often.

No dumber animal on the face of this earth IMO.  If wool werent such a great thing there'd be a bounty on them.

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 10:42:00 PM »
Hey Trap- exactly what KIND of sheep you talkin' about, LOL?

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 10:52:00 PM »
Trap - Domestic or wild sheep?

From the 1950s to the 1980s, my grandparents commercially raised up to 100,000 domestic turkeys a year. Domestic turkeys are the dumbest critters I've ever been around. Wild turkeys are exactly the opposite.
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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 11:20:00 PM »
I'm speaking of domestic sheep.  

Earlier in this thread Wade mentioned using sheep skin to line the top of a back quiver.  I assume most people that do that use skins from domestic sheep.  

I live and work in Missouri, No wild sheep here.

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Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 01:45:00 AM »
Bernie -

My mistake the boar bristles are in the hunting cuff, not the top of the Nimrod quiver itself...

 

Below is William VanVorst's original 1937 back quiver that he later lined with sheep skin at the top to quiet the arrow down...

 
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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 01:48:00 AM »
Trap - Hard to keep track of what wild animals are in what state anymore.

We actually now have wild sheep in Nebraska. They were introduced and have grown to be a huntable population. Usually one one permit is issued per year, by lottery...
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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 02:09:00 AM »
We as archer's must keep it alive by helping others into the sport WE LOVE.

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 02:48:00 AM »
Wade,

I've always found your posts/pics to be very informative. However, that 1st pic of the "boar bristles"...I find somehow very disturbing!    :scared:  

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Offline CrookedStick

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2009, 07:43:00 AM »
Thanks Wade...figures you would have the quiver from the first successful Michigan bowhunter!

I don't think the sheepskin would really help in this case because the quiver hangs straight on my back and the arrows are rattling against each other, not the side of the quiver.

So I guess my options are:
1. change my strap configuration and use it as a regular angled back quiver.
2. find a hunting cuff with the boar bristles or another specimen complete with the cuff and use it as a bottom exit quiver. But I don't know if I am competent enough to prevent an arrow from coming through that opening in the bottom and stabbing me in my bottom!
3. to combat that danger I guess I could wear that configuration as a side quiver (I just really like the style, with the handy pocket and knife and file sheath).
4. bag the whole idea and just go hunt up a sheep.

Anyway, THAAAAAAAAAAAAANKS for all the advice guys (he said sheepishly).

Berrrrrrrrrrrnie

p.s.  I just want to caution you guys, you have Cody speechless!

Offline Wade Phillips

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2009, 11:00:00 AM »
Ron - Oh my, I will never be able to look at the boar bristles in a Bear quiver again without thinking of your post.

Bernie - This how to make your Nimrod into a very quiet quiver.... These arrows do not rattle and do not make any noise...

These are both original Bear quivers (but little known), so the same modification to a Nimrod should not be considered a violation of the integrity of your quiver.

     
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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 12:36:00 PM »
Thanks again Wade,

I guess now I have to keep the arrows quiet enough to sneak up on a pig and pluck 700 bristles!

That's exactly the solution, thanks...

Bernie

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 02:20:00 AM »
:bigsmyl:  

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2009, 10:15:00 PM »
Sure Raineman, it's MY fault you have boar bristle issues at work...   "[dntthnk]"

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2009, 11:54:00 AM »
Those are beautiful arrows ... they dont make em like that anymore.
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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2009, 05:21:00 PM »
Stick, I grab a handful of dry grass and stuff it in the top of my basket quiver to keep the arrows from rattling. If it falls out when you draw an arrow, just grab another handful and reapply.

Offline CrookedStick

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Re: BDay Bear quiver issues
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2009, 07:38:00 PM »
Shaun,

That's perfect...exactly the type of tip I was looking for.  I think that may actually work for me.

Are you sure you don't have any issues with sheep you want to share with the crowd?    :eek:    

Bernie

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