Help ID old archery picture.Pope Hall

[Rick Enos]

This is an older picture from the Willis Barns scrap book...Pope Hall.I know Willis Barns is the little guy in the front row - middle. And Fred Bear is in the back row.I would love to ID the other archers in the picture.If anyone could help me on this one I would appreciate it......

 

[Wade Phillips]

Rick - Great photograph. Did it have a date?

Fred has his same light checked shirt as the 1938 snow storm photograph. He probably had it for years.

I like the big guy with his snow camo outfit.

I"ll see if I can match up any faces to names in other photographs.

[Rick Enos]

No date Wade.The guy standing next to Willis Barns looks like Dan Brennan.Brennan & Tex Stone shot Willis Barns archery tackle when they went to Old Mexico to kill the man eating Jaguar.I'll post a picture of Dan holding onto a Barns bow & some awsome arrows.Below photo is dated June 22 1937

 

[Rick Enos]

The guy at the right of Willis looks a little like William Van Vorst.He also was a user of Barns tackle....????

[Rick Enos]

I ment to the left of Willis Barns.Van Vorst to the left Brennan to the right???? just a guess.

[Liquid Amber]

Jack Van Coevering's article "Archers on Trial" in the November 1938 Sport's Afield has a slightly different photo of the group, probably one of several different poses taken at that time.  

Van Coevering implies the photo was take the previous fall in 1937.

The archer on the far right of the front row with suspenders is J. T. Jamieson.

[Liquid Amber]

I think I have three or four articles on these folks and "Deer Hunting with an Archer" by G. A. Prescott in the March 1938 issue of "American Forests" shows another version of this group, which makes three different photos of the group I have.  It's about Van Vorst and shows a good photo of him drawn with a bent end bow.

The archer I said was J. T. Jamison is actually Van Horst.  He has the same outfit as in the photo in Prescott's article.  Jamieson is there, I just need to find him.

[Liquid Amber]

Nelson B, "Nellie" Reed is one but I have no idea what he looks like, but from a description he might be a pretty stout fellow.

[Liquid Amber]

"White-Tails for Archers Only" by Henry F. Burgess in the February 1938 Outdoor Life shows another, different photo of the group, which actually has a few more archers added.  Pope Hall was the Mess Hall of a three building logging camp named Camp Sherwood.  

One article states it was named for Saxton Pope and another states it was named for Gustavus Pope, noted archer.  Another building was named the Art Young Lodge.  After more review, I suspect it was named after Saxton Pope.

With the three different photos I have in articles and the one posted at the beginning, it adds up to four slightly, different poses of this group.

I have another article by Wild Bill Childs that has information concerning this bunch of archers as well and will post the information on the article later as it's in a different binder.

[Liquid Amber]

"White-Tails for Archers Only" by Henry F. Burgess in the February 1938 Outdoor Life shows another, different photo of the group, which actually has a few more archers added.  Pope Hall was the Mess Hall of a three building logging camp named Camp Sherwood.  

One article states it was named for Saxton Pope and another states it was named for Gustavus Pope, noted archer.  Another building was named the Art Young Lodge.  After more review, I suspect it was named after Saxton Pope.

With the three different photos I have in articles and the one posted at the beginning, it adds up to four slightly, different poses of this group.

I have another article by Wild Bill Childs that has information concerning this bunch of archers as well and will post the information on the article later as it's in a different binder.

I think the third archer from the left in the billed cap is Jamieson

[johnnyrazorhead]

The third guy from the right kinda looks like Barney Grenier.

[Rick Enos]

Thanks guys for all the info.John Thats the first Pic. of Barney Grenier I've seen.The fella in the back row,4th from the left,Could that be freds father.Looks a little bit like him.Glasses & all.

[Liquid Amber]

Upon further review with a magnifying glass.     I have individual photos of Jamieson, and Van Vorst where they are named.  They appear to have been taken during the same session by their clothing and equipment.  The third archer from the left looks to be Jamieson.   The archer to the right of Jamieson and to the left of the short guy in front is Van Vorst.  

I have two good photos of the archer to the right of the short archer in the front; one good one heading the article about Van Vorst, but it is not captioned.  I assumed it Van Vorst because of the article.  He has a very distinctive outfit, especially that skill cap.  I don't know who he is but it's the same archer razorhead thinks to be Grenier.

I'll try to get some of these scanned tonight.

[johnnyrazorhead]

Looking with a magnifying glass,the guy to the right of Willis Barnes kinda looks like Karl Palmatier going by some old pics I've seen of him.
 Here's a pic of Barney Grenier.I thought the one guy third from the right looked like him.Looks like the same hat,boots and top of his socks.
   

[johnnyrazorhead]

Here's a pic of Karl Palmatier.
 

[Rick Enos]

Yes, I think your right john.Looks like Karl Palmatier.I see the likeness of Granier too.Thanks Liquid amber for your time on this.I appreciate it.So I've got Willis Barns-Jameison-Vanvorst- Fred bear- Carl Palmatier & Barnie Granier so far.Its really nice to put names & faces togeather.