Hay,, Sweet thanks for the info Ted, I have a Balboa signed by Larry, Don, Dan, Gail. So if the numbers are true from what Ted said. The numbers mean Larry built it. But,,,, Don Jewett says he made it and Larry designed it. Lol There's actually Six signatures on my Howatt. I cornered the Martin guys at the Moses Lake shoot in 2003. They were all kind enough to sign. Larry handed the bow to Don J and asked "if he remembered making these Balboa's". I Have all the pics of them signing the Bow. Then they signed the pictures i took of them the following year.I have Lots of respect for those boys. Thanks Lon and Ted. Got me some info out of your topic.Thanks Much..Nice bow Lon..