Rick I took the bleeder out and made a 200gr 2 blade out of em. So far I really like them. 5 pass throughs and one that stuck in the offside shoulder. I shoot 67 pounds 30.5 inch arrow (250 CE) with total arrow weight including head 612 grains. That head needs some work to sharpen, but stays pretty sharp. The only one that couldn't be reused was the one that stuck in a 250# buck's offside shoulder. It was completely busted off the ferule but the shoulder joint was busted too! Hope this helps.