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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2011, 08:09:00 AM »
Updated Results

Question #1 - 1/2 JohnnyRazorhead - 1/2 tuscarawasbowman
Question #2 - 1/2 tuscarawasbowman - 1/2 tuscarawasbowman
Question #3 - 1 tuscarawasbowman
Question #4 - 1 JohnnyRazorhead
Question #5 - 1 JohnnyRazorhead
Question #6 - unsolved
Question #7 - 1 bowhawk archer
Question #8 - 1 bowhawk archer
Question #9 - unsolved
Question #10 - 1 JohnnyRazorhead
Question #11 - unsolved
Question #12 - 1 bowhawk archer
Question #13 - unsolved

Totals
3-1/2 - JohnnyRazorhead
3 - - - bowhawk archer
2-1/2 - tuscarawasbowman


We still have 4 Questions to answer...

Question #6

Name a person who took two animals with a single arrow while on a hunt with Fred Bear, Name the person and the animals taken with a single arrow...

Question #9

What big game animal did Fred kill (according to his own words, not recover the same day) and never published a photograph of himself with the kill

Question #11

Name the animal that Fred Killed that was a World Record at the time he killed it, but was never recognized as a World Record by P&Y because another bowmen killed a larger animal later the same year and when P&Y gave the World Record awards, the other bowmen received the award.

Fred being the true gentleman that he always was, never mentioned this fact nor claimed this animal to be a short lived World Record, even though it truly was.

Question #13

Where are the horns of Fred Bear's First Cape Buffalo today?
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2011, 09:21:00 AM »
#9- African lion
#11-Polar bear
#13-Bass Pro Shop in Missouri

 Still can't think of who might be the answer to #6.It's driving me crazy!!   :banghead:

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #82 on: December 10, 2011, 11:52:00 AM »
Question #6

Name a person who took two animals with a single arrow while on a hunt with Fred Bear, Name the person and the animals taken with a single arrow...


Wade, would like to try again on the quiz: Capt. Ed Bilderback and the animal(s) were crows
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #83 on: December 10, 2011, 10:54:00 PM »
is # 11 Mountain Caribou?
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2011, 09:43:00 AM »
Point taken.   :)

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2011, 08:30:00 PM »
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#9- African lion
#11-Polar bear
#13-Bass Pro Shop in Missouri

 Still can't think of who might be the answer to #6.It's driving me crazy!!    :banghead:  
John -

Sorry all three answers are incorrect...

Try again
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2011, 08:34:00 PM »
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Question #6

Name a person who took two animals with a single arrow while on a hunt with Fred Bear, Name the person and the animals taken with a single arrow...


Wade, would like to try again on the quiz: Capt. Ed Bilderback and the animal(s) were crows
John - Sorry your answer is not correct. We are looking for two animals, rather then birds.

I don't remember hearing about Ed Bilderback  killing two crows with a single arrow. Is that a fact recorded in a publication or was that a guess?
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2011, 08:37:00 PM »
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is # 11 Mountain Caribou?
Lucas - Sorry, your answer is not correct. Fred's Mountain Caribou was the World Record from the time it was killed in 1957 until 1968 when a larger one was taken.
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2011, 08:47:00 PM »
Wade, I have watched my Fred Bear DVDs too many times to count and Capt. Ed and Bob Munger hunt crows in one of the Kodiak hunts.

Wasn't a "wild guess" but more of an "educated guess" from my memory. I will make a point of paying closer attention next time.

Really enjoying the quiz. Thanks again.
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #89 on: December 13, 2011, 08:27:00 AM »
Question #14 -

What is this item?
Who is the historical archery person connected to this item.

 
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #90 on: December 13, 2011, 09:01:00 AM »
Number 11- Freds Dall sheep from the 1958 little Delta Hunt. Bud Gray killed a larger sheep during the same hunt. The Picture of the 1960 awards shows Bud's sheep. A very shortlived world record if this is the right answer.

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #91 on: December 13, 2011, 09:04:00 AM »
Question 13- In wade Phillips collection   :laughing:

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #92 on: December 13, 2011, 12:49:00 PM »
Updated Results

Question #1 - 1/2 JohnnyRazorhead - 1/2 tuscarawasbowman
Question #2 - 1/2 tuscarawasbowman - 1/2 tuscarawasbowman
Question #3 - 1 tuscarawasbowman
Question #4 - 1 JohnnyRazorhead
Question #5 - 1 JohnnyRazorhead
Question #6 - unsolved
Question #7 - 1 bowhawk archer
Question #8 - 1 bowhawk archer
Question #9 - unsolved
Question #10 - 1 JohnnyRazorhead
Question #11 - unsolved
Question #12 - 1 bowhawk archer
Question #13 - unsolved
Question #14 - unsolved

Totals
3-1/2 - JohnnyRazorhead
3 - - - bowhawk archer
2-1/2 - tuscarawasbowman


We still have 5 Questions to answer...

Question #6

Name a person who took two animals with a single arrow while on a hunt with Fred Bear, Name the person and the animals taken with a single arrow...

Question #9

What big game animal did Fred kill (according to his own words, not recover the same day) and never published a photograph of himself with the kill

Question #11

Name the animal that Fred Killed that was a World Record at the time he killed it, but was never recognized as a World Record by P&Y. Another bowmen killed a larger animal later the same year and when P&Y gave the World Record awards, another bowmen received the award.

Fred being the true gentleman that he always was, never mentioned this fact nor claimed this animal to be a short lived World Record, even though it truly was.

Question #13

Where are the horns of Fred Bear's First Cape Buffalo today?

Question #14 -

What is this item?
Who is the historical archery person connected to this item.

     
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #93 on: December 13, 2011, 01:05:00 PM »
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Number 11- Freds Dall sheep from the 1958 little Delta Hunt. Bud Gray killed a larger sheep during the same hunt. The Picture of the 1960 awards shows Bud's sheep. A very shortlived world record if this is the right answer.
tuscarawasbowman - Pretty good guess, but sorry your answer is not correct.

In 1923, Art Young killed a larger Dall Sheep than Fred's. And in 1957 Martin Hanson killed a larger one too. So Fred's Dall Sheep was never a record as two larger rams were already killed when Fred took his in 1958.

Bud Gray's 1958 Ram exceeded both Young's and Hanson's rams.
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #94 on: December 13, 2011, 01:10:00 PM »
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Question 13- In wade Phillips collection    :laughing:  
tuscarawasbowman: Funny answer, I wish it were correct, but unfortunately your answer is incorrect.
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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2011, 01:17:00 PM »
Dang I thought I had 11 in the bag. Back to the books.

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #96 on: December 13, 2011, 01:47:00 PM »
I just came across this thread. I am not with my books, so I won't throw out any guesses on most questions.

I do believe that number 14 is a bracelet made from the hair on an elephants tail, taken after the kill. As far as whose it is, that is a question I would have to guess on because I do not know what each successful hunters bracelet looked like.

My first guess would be Bill Negley.

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #97 on: December 13, 2011, 02:12:00 PM »
Number 11 is bothering me. I do not have the records book with me, but I have read through the entries a few times, and I know that many of Fred's entries do not even meet the current minimums. I have eliminated most species, but do not want to guess for fear of being wrong.

Earlier you said someone's answer Moose was close, so I do not know what that means. Someone said Caribou and that was wrong (I am assuming this means all species). Unless I missed something, the only entry for any moose by Fred Bear was his Canada Moose. Some of his Alaska-Yukon Moose look large, but I did not see any entries in the book.

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #98 on: December 13, 2011, 02:21:00 PM »
Am I correct that the animal in question for #11 was shot after 1961? For it to be a P&Y award.

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Re: Historical Archery Quiz - 100 Questions for JohnnyRazorhead or Anyone Else
« Reply #99 on: December 13, 2011, 02:29:00 PM »
Missaukee- I don't believe so. Bud gray's Dall sheep was shot in 1958 and was listed as the World Record at the first awards.

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