I was at one of the PBS banquets the day before it really started and struck a conversation with a couple guys, I showed them the knife I made and then we went up to Jerry's room and he showed me the first bow I had seen with the "points" in it, I asked him what they sold for, Jerry said, I don't know, I don't sell em! I then asked him HOW he made the points and never expected an answer, BUT he told me how to make them! After his death, the family gave me all the remaining cutoffs from the bowmaking. I made a knife and box for PBS, but I still have a few pieces left which will resurface in a donation some day.