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Author Topic: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2  (Read 1743 times)

Offline JC

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I can't count the # of emails and pm's that I've gotten asking, "Now that you have both, which one is better?, What do they look like? How do they shoot? Which is faster? etc.etc."

Those are all difficult questions to answer...and you may be surprised by the final conclusion...or conclusions   ;)   I have come to. The testing sure has been an eye opener and more than a lot of fun.   :readit:  

The specs:

A&H ACS/CX , 62", Zebrawood/phenolic riser, 57#@27"
Morrison Shawnee/foam core/carbon back Dakota longbow limbs, 56", Zebrawood/midnight dymondwood riser, 59#@27"

Intro pics:

A&H
   

 

Morrison
 

 

Fit and finish on both bows was pretty much perfect. The A&H uses a finish reminescent of the blackwidow I once owned: very hard with a slight texture, a very slight but pleasing sheen. The Morrison has a flat clear finish, seemingly not as hard as the A&H. I could find no visible flaws in either bow.

Over the next few days, I'll post some updates, more pics, some subjective and objective data...sorry, not trying to stall, just a busy time of the year.   :campfire:
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2007, 12:18:00 PM »
That is one sweet set of risers JC.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2007, 12:23:00 PM »
:eek:      :eek:      :eek:      :eek:   WOWZERS! BOTH OF THEM ARE SWEET.<><
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2007, 12:30:00 PM »
Is the Morrison 56" or 66"?  You typed 56, but I'm guessing you meant 66.

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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2007, 12:30:00 PM »
Ok, now what was your findings beyond the finish??? They are both very beautiful. I am curious about what arrows you are shooting out of both, fps, etc.  Come on "show and tell" time.  lol
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2007, 01:18:00 PM »
Both beautiful,and Both probably shoot just as good.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 01:26:00 PM »
With JC I'd say 56" is right.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2007, 01:31:00 PM »
Title of the thread sounds like a Heavy Weight Title Boxing Match!  Sweeeeeeet looking bows!
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 01:35:00 PM »
sweet bows...looks like they came off the same mold.   :archer:

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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2007, 01:52:00 PM »
Very nice! This one thread I'm going to watch.  :thumbsup:
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2007, 09:15:00 PM »
fantastic looking bows. I'm on the list for a acs cx and very interested in hearing more about them. Todd

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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2007, 09:48:00 AM »
Looper, nope, 56" is correct for the Morrison. I only draw 27" so don't need anything longer.

I hope to have the chrono #'s as soon as the weather clears...we've had rain (THANK GOD!) for the last 3 days off and on and not enough good sunshine for accurate readings.

More visual aspects:

I really like the trim A&H riser; it's width is as minimal as I think it can be made, gives the 62" bow a very "svelte" sexy profile from any angle. The riser has an unusual curve at the window, very unique look for a wood riser.

 

 

 

The grip is very good. Although it's a bit higher than I normally like on longbows, it is very easy to get consistent hand placement. My only complaint is a very slight ridge at the web area. Now, if you shoot high wrist, for some reason you don't feel it, but I like my whole hand pressure on a longbow and I'll take some sandpaper to it if it stays. Just a preference, not a design flaw or issue at all.

The tips of the A&H are a bit beefier than the previous Adcock built bows I've seen. One issue I personally have had with other ACS bows was the stability of the limb tips, I have a few friends on this board who own or have owned ACS bows that unstrung themselves if bumped hard on the limb tip, and some even if not layed down flat carefully. This is not the case with this A&H model I have. I don't think the bow would unstring unless you puprosefully meant to. I was really glad to see this change.

I wish my camera could capture the subtleties of the the Adcock Cross Section....again, very unique. Obviously an ingenious, effective design.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2007, 10:54:00 AM »
Waiting for the rain to clear...............................Both have their plusses without minuses. I don't have any foam cores so this will be enlightening. But wait! Are foam cores trad? Has anybody checked to see if the mods may pull this thread? Oh no!!

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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2007, 11:07:00 AM »
Bjorn, I'm not sure what boards you typically frequent, but you will get very little arguement on what material makes a trad bow on this one...and certainly not from this moderator.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2007, 12:33:00 PM »
Waiting with baited breath Joe.....I'm gonna be ordering either a Morrison or an ACS next year. I'm leaning toward the Morrison at the moment, but I'm still on the fence.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2007, 12:53:00 PM »
Why I normally hang out here JC, Thanks, LOL!
Rob, I have both-no foam-of course;  you have to spend some time with each. In my mind at this level it is purely subjective-a few fps aside-some prefer blondes and others redheads but then again it is still 'Raining in Georgia'.

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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2007, 06:28:00 PM »
Rob, I agree with Bjorn; no matter what, I'd shoot both before I plunked down my hard earned cash. But, that said, you won't be sorry with either one.

It cleared, but not before wrestling practice was over tonight, maybe tomorrow. And yes, I think most of the preferences folks have between these two bows, are just that....preferences.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2007, 10:49:00 AM »
JC,
you are killing me...please,please, quit teasing us.
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2007, 12:28:00 PM »
Well according to NOAA the weather in most of Georgia is pretty good right about now!
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Re: A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2007, 01:58:00 PM »
hurry up...we are all waiting for the tests !!!

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