A&H ACS/CX vs. Morrison Shawnee/Dakota Foam/Carbon...chrono #'s added pg2

[JC]

Yer right, it's a beautiful day today! Whole family is here so we had to play a marathon monopoly game this morning....but just got back in from shooting    

[Bjorn]

Wow! Those speeds are so close looking at the the gr/# results. Were you 10' away from the front of the chrono?-Or is that a typo?
Very good test Joe, your detail is really well covered.

[JC]

After shooting for chrono #'s, I spent a little time shooting for fun, from 10yards to....way back there.

A&H ACS really liked the 542gr arrow: Beman ICS Hunter 340's, 28 3/4" BOP, 50gr brass insert, 200gr head, 4x4" low profile nanners, no dip/crown. I need to do a bit more tuning to get this one perfect but it's real close. I still have difficulty with the bow shooting too the right, even with arrows that are slightly stiff. I'm sure I could cure that with a bit of grip sanding or simply shooting this bow exclusively for a while:

 

Shawnee/Dakota liked the 575gr arrow best: Carbon Express Terminator Hunter 60/75, 29 1/8 BOP, standard aluminum insert, 200gr head, 4x4" low profile nanners with small dip/crown. This one bareshafted perfectly out to....well...I'm not gonna tell you...but this one was a "fer poke" as my granpap would say:

 

[JC]

Bjorn, we just went and remeasured...from my feet to the start window was 10'....looks about roughly 8' from front of riser. Edited above.

[robtattoo]

That Morrison is getting prettier by the post!

Great speeds from both bows, you ain't making this any easier, are ya?!  :D  :D

[JC]

I told ya Rob, these are the two best longbows I've ever had in my hands. I might even stretch and say, they are the two best bows period, I've ever had in my hands. Those who know me, may be asking if I fell and hit my head    :eek:  

Oh yeah, and here's the special Eagle's Flight quiver Don & Karen Ward built for me just a few days ago; black leather, black stitching and black SHARKSKIN....ooooooh sooo coool lookin!

 

Anyone notice anything unusual from this and the other pics about the mounting of this quiver?  

[Bjorn]

That quiver is definitely Luciferous-made by Mr. and Mrs. Bowdoc?
How is that held on anyway? The riser is still completely flush to the limb, and I don't imagine you drilled the side of that gorgeous riser.

[Shaun]

JC good stuff and well documented. Looks like that Eagles Flight is mounted to bushings in the riser, good plan. Bob should be proud of any longbow that can get you to say such sweet things about it.

[JC]

Bjorn, sorry for the confusion, Don Ward of Eagle's flight archery in NC....not "The Real Bowdoc" Don Ward....though I'm sure if he decided to make a quiver it would be one finely crafted one.

Shaun, the bow is deserving of every word. And thank you for your insinuation, it means a lot coming from someone who is as seasoned as you.

I'm using limb bolts that are drilled and tapped internally, a-la habu for those of you who have owned one. The limb bolt screws in, then the bolt on quiver screws down into the recess of limb bolt. My only, and I do emphasize only, complaint about the shawnee is the limbs that screw in from the rear...not as easy to mount a quiver as the standard front riser mount bolts.

[Tique]

JC, was wondering if you used special limb bolts to mount that quiver; now I know. Nice shooting BTW; realy enjoying this thread!

[snag]

Glad to see the Cheyenne held up pretty well against those speed demons.

[JC]

Snag, prior to these two bows, this particular Cheyenne was the fastest bow I've shot. Bob says the new foam core/fiberglass Cheyenne limbs will match these new longbow limbs. I'll hopefully be able to see that for myself in a few more months.

I prefer to think of these two as "speed angels" cause nothing this sweet and fine could be called a "demon"  

[Guru]

good stuff there bud...good luck with them both.

Merry Christmas!

[Hooked]

Thanks, for sharing all that!  Now if I can ever afford one of the two, I will have a tough choice to make!!!

[ronda]

I've got a acs cx on the way, the wife is going to kill me when I tell her I need a Morrison also.

[Seeking Trad Deer]

JC...
Any idea how many fps you would pick up with the foam core limbs over the regular actionboo Cheyenne limbs?  Any noise difference in the regular cheyenne limbs verses a foam coare limb?

[mooseman76]

JC...Those bows are sweet.  Is the morrison carbon on the belly and back?  Do you have any pics from the front and back of the Morrison.  Not trying to make the ACS jealous by only asking about the Morrison, but I already owned an ACS...Mike

[buckster]

Will anxiously await your results JC.  Man them are some sweeties.

[Crooked Stic]

A body cant complain about those numbers.

[Alex.B]

Joe
Thanks, I love that chrono analysis stuff!