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Offline Brent Hill

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2008, 12:21:00 PM »
I didn't know it had gone that far already.  Thats very concerning.  Any updates as to the present day to day situation ?  Bhill

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2008, 12:34:00 PM »
"Africans are in the majority at just over 38-million, making up 79.6% of the total population. The white population is estimated at 4.3-million (9.1%), the coloured population at 4.2-million (8.9%) and the Indian/Asian population at just short of 1.2-million (2.5%).

While more than three-quarters of South Africa's population is black African, this category is neither culturally nor linguistically homogenous."

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Offline Dr. Ed Ashby

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2008, 02:16:00 PM »
Here's the latest information for South Africa from the U.S. State Department traveller’s information site:  http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1008.html

SAFETY AND SECURITY:   Travelers are encouraged to be vigilant and avoid any large gathering, particularly protests and demonstrations.  The possibility of violence, including threats against American interests, should not be discounted, particularly in times of heightened world tension.

South Africa has seen a number of attacks directed at foreigners – particularly refugees or immigrants from other African nations.  Many of the attacks were centered in Johannesburg and the province of Gauteng in low income neighborhoods and informal settlements, but incidents of mob violence have taken place throughout the country.  Many individuals have been killed in these incidents and many more, both targeted victims and bystanders, have been injured.  While there have been no reports of Americans or other non-African visitors being targeted, these incidents of mob violence have sprung up quickly and proven difficult for local authorities to control.  American residents and visitors are advised to listen to local media for reports of such incidents and to avoid areas (including but not limited to townships) where they may be likely to occur.

For the latest security information, Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs’ web site at  http://travel.state.gov,  where the current Travel Warnings and Travel Alerts, as well as the Worldwide Caution, can be found.
 
Up-to-date information on safety and security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the U.S. and Canada, or for callers outside the U.S. and Canada, a regular toll-line at 1-202-501-4444.  These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).

The Department of State urges American citizens to take responsibility for their own personal security while traveling overseas.  For general information about appropriate measures travelers can take to protect themselves in an overseas environment, see the Department of State’s pamphlet A Safe Trip Abroad.
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CRIME:  Although the vast majority of visitors complete their travels in South Africa without incident, visitors should be aware that criminal activity, often violent, occurs routinely.  Notwithstanding government anti-crime efforts, violent crimes such as armed robbery, carjacking, mugging, "smash and grab" attacks on vehicles, and other incidents are regularly reported by visitors and resident Americans.

Visitors and residents are advised of ongoing criminal activity involving organized crime gangs targeting individuals at shopping centers and in particular at the OR Tambo International Airport, Johannesburg.  Once a victim has been identified, he/she is followed back to his/her residence and robbed, usually at gunpoint, although the use of force is generally reserved for those offering some form of resistance.  These gangs tend to target more “affluent” individuals, including people driving expensive cars, wearing eye-catching jewelry, flashing large amounts of cash, and/or making high-value purchases.  Criminals also gravitate towards “soft” targets – people who appear preoccupied and do not pay attention to their immediate surroundings.  Tourists have been targeted in a similar fashion at the airport.  It appears that criminals may view certain incoming travelers as suitable targets (due perhaps to dress, jewelry or use of an ATM) and notify confederates who follow the travelers to rob them at their destination or even en route.   Visitors who believe they are being followed should drive directly to a police station or other public location.

Automated Teller Machines (ATMs) have increasingly been targeted by criminals.  The use of commercial explosives to blow up ATMs is a relatively new phenomenon in South Africa.  In 2006, 54 such attacks were recorded.  In 2007, the number of ATM bombings jumped to 387.  While statistically affecting only a small percentage of machines, in the first half of 2008, the number of attacks was nearly 200.  ATM bombings have usually taken place in the early hours of the morning in remote or isolated areas although recent attacks have taken place at gas stations and shopping complexes.  Criminals also loiter near ATM machines and target persons withdrawing cash.  Based on these threats, the following security precautions are recommended:  Avoid using ATMs in dark, remote, or isolated areas.  ATMs located inside shopping malls, hotels, and banks are preferred since they are normally high-traffic areas, and monitored by security guards and cameras.  Avoid using an ATM with a cord or other foreign object attached to it.  Should you notice a suspicious device on an ATM, immediately leave the area; take cover, and notify the police.  Shrapnel and debris from an explosion can travel long distances and cause serious injury or death.  Before withdrawing money, scan the area for any suspicious persons or activity.  Should anyone approach you while you are withdrawing money, immediately cancel the transaction and leave the area.  Should you be confronted by an armed individual - immediately comply, avoid making sudden movements, and do not offer any form of resistance.  Any hesitation on your part could be perceived as a threat which may result in unnecessary violence.  Criminals do not discriminate.  Members of the international diplomatic community have recently been included as targets of crime.    

Motorists are urged to be extremely cautious when approaching intersections and to hide bags, cell phones, and other valuables from view.  Criminals are on the lookout for valuable items they can see through the car windows (see mention of “smash and grab” under traffic safety).  Doors should be kept locked and windows rolled up at all times.
Crimes against property, such as carjacking, have often been accompanied by violent acts, including murder, when victims resist or are slow to respond to attackers’ demands.  South Africa also has the highest incidence of reported rape in the world.  Foreigners are not specifically targeted, but several have been the victims of rape.  Victims of violent crime, especially rape, are strongly encouraged to seek immediate medical attention, including antiretroviral therapy against HIV/AIDS.  Questions about how to receive such treatment should be directed to the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.

Criminal activity, such as assault, armed robbery, and theft is particularly high in areas surrounding many hotels and public transportation centers, especially in major cities.  Theft of passports and other valuables is most likely to occur at airports, bus terminals, and train stations.  A number of Americans have been mugged or violently attacked on commuter and metro trains, especially between Johannesburg and Pretoria.  Several American travelers also reported theft of personal belongings after strangers whom they invited into their hotel drugged them.  In at least one instance, an American died after being drugged and robbed in this manner.

There is a serious baggage pilferage problem at OR Tambo, Johannesburg and Cape Town International airports, particularly affecting travelers changing airlines and those flying on smaller airlines—passengers flying on major international carriers may not be affected to the same degree.  Travelers are encouraged to secure their luggage with Transportation Security Administration (TSA) approved locks, use an airport plastic wrapping service, and avoid placing electronics, jewelry, cameras or other valuables in checked luggage.  Make an inventory of items in checked baggage to aid in claims processing if theft does occur.

In the Western Cape, police resources have been strained by continuing gang conflicts and vigilante violence in the low income areas and informal settlements in Cape Town.  The Cape Flats area, surrounding townships, and squatter camps adjacent to the city center, should be avoided by people unfamiliar with the area.  Additionally, travelers should be aware that muggings have become common along many popular routes on Table Mountain, a prime tourist destination in Cape Town.  Visitors to Table Mountain should be vigilant, hike in groups, and not carry valuables.  

Armed robbery of cash-in-transit vehicles and personnel occurs throughout South Africa and peaks during December and January due to the increase in cash flow from commercial stores to banks.  These attacks have also included incidents at major malls and in large grocery stores.  Individuals should raise their level of situational awareness while in the vicinity of cash-in-transit vehicles and personnel and should avoid areas where they are located to the maximum extent possible.

Credit card fraud, counterfeit U.S. currency, and various check-cashing scams are frequently reported.  Do not accept "assistance" from anyone, or agree to assist others with ATM transactions.  Travelers should try to avoid using ATMs after bank business hours or in remote locations.  When giving your credit card to a store or restaurant employee for processing, do not let them take the card out of your sight.  Visitors should also beware of telephone or email schemes, which attempt to win the confidence of an unsuspecting American who is persuaded either to provide privileged financial information or travel to South Africa to assist in a supposedly lucrative business venture.
To check on a business’s legitimacy while in the U.S., contact the International Trade Administration, Room 3317, Department of Commerce, Washington, DC 20230, telephone: 1-800-USA-TRADE or 202-482-5149, fax: 202-482-5198.  If you are abroad, contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.
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INFORMATION FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME:  The loss or theft abroad of a U.S. passport should be reported immediately to the local police and the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate.  If you are the victim of a crime while overseas, in addition to reporting to local police, please contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate for assistance.  The Embassy/Consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find appropriate medical care, contact family members or friends and explain how funds could be transferred.  Although the investigation and prosecution of the crime is solely the responsibility of local authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local criminal justice process and to find an attorney if needed.
The local equivalent to the “911” emergency line in South Africa is 10111.
See our information on Victims of Crime.
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Offline Talondale

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2008, 04:40:00 PM »
One of my coworkers is from SA and he just returned from visiting family there.  I talked to him last Friday about the situation and he confirmed much that has been written here.  He also talked about the power grid in disrepair and the crime rate.  Unfortunately for him he has family that is unable to leave as the process is very expensive and you have to pay annually for the chance to qualify.  

His impression is that unlike other countries the whites are armed and won't go without a fight.

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2008, 06:28:00 PM »
Talondale,

Did your coworker tell you if any "family" ground has been taken? Does he believe there could be armed action against the government?


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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2008, 04:13:00 PM »
Yes unfortunately things are getting worse and worse in SA. Crime is getting even more out of control, contrary to what the corrupt head of the police force and government are trying to get us to believe. The electricity supply is on the verge of (another) breakdown, cost of living has skyrocketed and I can continue with the list. I'm (along with the majority of white South Africans) very worried about what's going to happen in the future if (when) Zuma becomes president. He, like all other African leaders, only has 1 objective and that is to line his and his friends pockets at the expense of the people and unfortunately so many black South Africans don't see that he's just going to take them for a ride. I'm going to start making plans in January to apply for residency in Australia, I just hope I can get my family out too.

All of this said, there have been a few reports over the last week that the ANC have lost a lot of supporters because of the Mbeki deal and that after a snap pole the ANC and the DA (the main opposition) are neck and neck at the moment. There have also been a few reports of a break-away party being formed by the ANC members that support Mbeki but how true this is I don't know. All I hope is that the ANC do not get a 2/3rds majority at the next election. Unfortunately so many white people have the attitude of "I'm not going to vote because the ANC will win anyway and what's my 1 vote going to help?" This attitude is going to be the final nail in our coffin. So if you're a South African eligible to vote in next years election, vote!

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2008, 05:29:00 PM »
Best of luck to your family and the rest of your community.  Its very unfortunate what is being forced on your homeland.  We are very concerned for you and appreciate you sharing this update with us.  Bhill

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2008, 07:19:00 PM »
Clayton, I can't tell you how much my heart goes out to you and your family. I miss Africa something terrible.

All the best in your attempts to get into Australia. I think you have a pretty good chance. I was too old, and because of that have never managed to get residency in Australia. I just have to travel in and out on a multiple entry visa; going out at least every three months. Being retired that's not such a great problem; but the cost and the interruptions in things I want to get accomplished in Oz is a real pain.

If I can help you out in any way, let me know.

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2008, 02:47:00 PM »
Its all very sad to say the least. I first visited Africa in 92 and have now spent almost three months on African soils. I have watched closely as Zim deteriated from a propsperous nation to its current low. South Africa appears to be heading down the same path. The big issue is outside help and intervention, unfortunatly the rest of the world does not give not give a dam about Africa. Other than the aids and famine issues the western World ignores Africa, which is very sad. More people have died in the past ten years on African soil to war/fighting than in our worlds history. No one gives a dam, to be frank. Without alot of outside help and intervention the vicious cycle will only continue. My heart goes out to my friends and any of you that continue to maintain your way of life on this amazing continent. God bless you all and Africa.
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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2008, 12:19:00 PM »
Mark my words,this is coming to the country where your feet stand, the problems of Africa have Always found a way the rest of the world. That is any country, any where. The participants don't nessicarily need be black and white. Tribalism, as with most other isms' is a base condition for the disenfranchised(and the corrupt, power mad leaders that use those emotions). Gangs, cults, movements, proponents of "change"....it's all the same nonsense. Unfortunately it appears that all we can do is watch, or is it? As the somewhat responsible guv's topple in Africa, the people and resources that were such a draw to the rest of the world suffer unspeakable consiquence. Perhaps it is naieve' to think that some of the worlds powerers can make any positive difference. they never have, despite good intention-or bad. In the end Africa remains a wild continent, not the one we knew and loved, but nevertheless untameable and dangerous.
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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2008, 05:32:00 PM »
Hey guys.
Sadly things are looking quite dismal for safas everywhere!!
Got family in the eastern cape, mom says they have been told they are gonna be faceing 30 - 40 hrs worth of power cuts over a 10 day period for the next 4 months if not longer  :mad: ! Generator companies are making a killing!! So my brother in law is gonna be wireing up the electics this weekend! Like tradtusker says, land reposession has been quietly happening more and more over the last 5/7 years! I know of a PH that had his farm 'Forceably bought' after the gov found platnum on it  :scared:  Guess they  paid him market price, but one wonders how long they will keep doing that?!
All we can do is   :pray:  
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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2008, 02:48:00 PM »
Are there any News sites that will give me the truth as to what is happening in SA?  Not spin, but the truth.


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Offline Zenzele

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Re: Red Flags Everywhere
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2008, 08:25:00 AM »
Most sites are full of spin in one form or the other news24 or the ap is what I read!
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