I felt compelled to make Ed aware of this post last night as he is a sponser on this site. He tried to log in last night and post a reply but was having log in issues. So this morning he called me and asked if I would post this on his behalf....................
Ed's Reply...............
Greetings from Alaska. My name is Ed Schlief, president of Alaska Bowhunting Supply and the designer of the GrizzlyStik. It is rare that I ever get involved writing on these chat room threads because I really don’t have time or inclination to sit in front of a computer after a long day in my office. I spend way too much time sitting on my butt processing orders and doing the day to day business. When I have free time, I’d rather be outside, hunting, fishing or just training my dog.
Anyway, it was brought to my attention that I had better read what was going on concerning comments about my GrizzlyStiks. The last time I wrote on a chat room was about 6 years ago when some guy from PA insisted on telling folks on the Leather Wall that I was making my GrizzlyStik shafts out of "scrap" pieces of St Croix fishing rod blanks…if you can believe that! For some reason, this guy wouldn’t quit, so I was forced to confront his lies on internet public forum. He went away but it was not fun.
First of all, I am truly sorry to hear that the gentleman from France is displeased with my GrizzlyStik’s. However, it was never brought to my attention that there was any problem with my arrow shafts. Had he written or called, I would have solved his problem before he damaged his bow. I pride myself on delivering the best product and customer service possible.
I understand that the GrizzlyStik Safari is not for every bowhunter because they are heavy, stiff and the toughest arrow shaft that the engineers know how to build. They certainly are not indestructible but as far as I know, the only big game animal that has not been harvested is the African rhino. The list includes elephant, hippo, cat’s, giraffe, countless Cape and Asiatic buffalo and most all North American big game. But my most notable customer is a veterinarian from KY who called to ordered 6 more Alaskan from me this fall. During our conversation, he casually mentioned that he has now taken over 15 whitetails…on a single Alaskan arrow.
I will now address the complaints from the gentleman from France. BTW, I have many long time European customers (several have become personal friends) who have been hunting with my shafts for years.
1. “the nock's insert cone doesn't perfectly fit the nock: so the nocks burst quickly and I ruined a marvelous 100# LB cause of that with a brand new nock which had exploded after a 30 of releases “
In the past 8 years, I have never heard of a nock fracturing because it was correctly shot out of a bow. One of my customers from TX shoots the Safari out a 125# custom longbow with no problems. The nocks are standard Marco nocks made in the USA. If I could find a better nock, I would offer it. There are two probable reasons for the nocks cracking. The first could simply be the bow string thickness. At 100#’s, the bow string and serving could be too thick for the nock grove, causing the nock ears to stretch and crack. The second and most likely cause is the impact shock imparted upon the nock when the arrow hits a solid target, i.e. tree stump. The GrizzlyStik, because of its tapered design, quickly straightens from the deceleration paradox. It does not flex upon impact like parallel shafts. Any of the readers who shoot the Safari out of heavy bows have experienced nocks being fractured upon hitting hard targets. They are only plastic, the weakest part of the arrow. Prudence would dictate that when you shoot in the field and hit hard objects, you should always check the arrow for damage. Perhaps pounding 30 arrows while field shooting had something to do with the nock failure. Do you know what the striking force of a 900+ grain Safari shot out of a 100# bow is? The Safari is a primitive form of depleted uranium!
2. “they are not versatile at all: they need special inserts (you cannot use the 100gr brass inserts) and nocks (you cannot use illuminated nocks); they can't be fulfilled to get more weight (they don't accept weight tubes cause of the conic internal diameter”
The gentleman from France needs to understand that if you cannot shoot 12 ga. shot shells out of a 20 ga. shotgun, why would you expect to fit a 100 gr. Muzzy brass point insert into one of my GrizzlyStik shafts? My GrizzlyStik inserts are designed for the GrizzlyStik shafts. It’s that simple. Luminocks don’t fit GrizzlyStik's ...or wooden shafts for that matter.
3.“they can't be fulfilled to get more weight , they don't accept weight tubes cause of the conic internal diameter”
The GrizzlyStik is not designed for weight tubes. The tubes are proven to be a poor idea. Read Dr. Ashby’s reports on arrow penetration. They do nothing to improve EFoC, which is one of the single most important issues in penetration. However, I offer 20 and 50 grain internal weights that screw into the back end of the brass point adapter to increase arrow mass. That dramatically (30%+) improves penetration by increasing EFoC.
4. “some of them are too stiff to be shoot by 100# bows !!!”
Tuning arrows to a bow takes a degree of skill and knowledge. Classic longbows with heavy draw weights are the most difficult to tune. And not all bows, particularly longbows are equal. The major difference is the thickness in the riser. I would guess that the “100# bow” is probably is a Howard Hill style, straight limbed longbow that shoots off center by about ¼+”. Experienced longbow archers know that you need softer spined arrows to bend around a thick riser. With a center shot bows, you can use a stiffer arrow. My web site explains that the Safari is designed for bows up to 100+ pounds. However, most of my customers draw much lighter weight that that. The average is 60# - 70#.
The last and most important point is simply this. I guarantee everything that I sell. But I can't solve a problem and fix it if I don't know that it's broken. Sorry that I got so windy but felt that I had to reply.
Cheers,
Ed Schlief
Alaska Bowhunting Supply
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