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Offline AZStickman

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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2004, 10:01:00 AM »
Here we are creating Facet #3:

    http://mail4.cableaz.com/~tpetko/auctionbow9.htm    

Roughing in the nocks:

    http://mail4.cableaz.com/~tpetko/auctionbow10.htm    

And Taking a look at the string alignment and the first pull on the tillering tree:

    http://mail4.cableaz.com/~tpetko/auctionbow11.htm  


Amazing how nice the first pull looks. This stave really wants to be a bow..... From here on out we'll be stalking tiller.....   :)   .... Terry
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2004, 10:24:00 AM »
Very nice Terry! Now I know what took you so long. We thought you were sun bathing!  :D  

The site look very well done! Nice  graphics.

First pull looks about right!
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2004, 12:13:00 PM »
LOL.... Nope Tim not sunbathing this morning was the first chance I had to work on her since last weekend...Work and after work meetings screwed up my bow makin schedule..   :D   ....I was up at 4:00 this morning and got a couple of hours to work on her and get the pages up.....Auditioning Guitar Players this afternoon for the band but I should get some more done tomorrow.......Terry
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2004, 07:42:00 PM »
Well the guitar players flaked out so I had bowyering time today....  :D  Got her to the short string..... Time to start stalking final tiller... Terry

  http://mail4.cableaz.com/~tpetko/auctionbow12.htm
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2004, 07:52:00 PM »
Terry,

Keep an eye on the near wood on the right limb ya got the makings of a hinge working there.  Looking good grass hopper.  Now get them limbs moving.

Mike

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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2004, 08:03:00 PM »
Ditto what Mike said.........Lookin good.

Isn't that Century tree something else?
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2004, 08:42:00 PM »
Gotcha guys... thanks....  :D  .....This is a special stave for sure George......Terry
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2004, 08:54:00 PM »
Terry - here'a a great trick I just discovered on a bow, could be helpful... If you have an area that's hinging or showing set early on due to an almosta hinge, just heat it with a heatgun and maybe backset that area some. Then lighten the rest of the bow around it, and go back to the tree. Hinge / set magically gone for good! Buildalong going great - keep at it... Steve
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2004, 09:49:00 PM »
Terry (also Mike)I have my piece with the 3rd facet filed in it, and then flattened off and I understand now I go to the long string. Couple of Questions: (1)I cut the first 2 facets in at 3/8" then up to the peak in the center of the limb, then flattened the peak (about 1/4" flat strip down the center). If the bow is too strong do I recut the first 2 facets at 1/4" and start again? Once you start tillering on the long string you just scrape the flattened 3rd facet where needed to make it bend properly? (remember I'm a flat limb kinda guy... and this is my first Torges style faceted tiller job)

PS I have HOB but I like pestering you guys   :D
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2004, 10:09:00 PM »
Fine build along Terry.  Like everybody said, the right limb is really flat in the center.  Look for that wood to fade about 4# or 5#.  It's as clean of osage as I've yet handled but the thick early rings will compress as you work it in.  Leave yourself about 2" of draw length until you break it in good.  Great post.  Thanks.
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2004, 07:48:00 AM »
Mickey.... You want the bow to be bending a bit before you cut in your 3rd facet....By using 1/4" facets for your 45-55# bows and 3/8" facets for your 60+# bows you'll be pretty close..... If the bow is stiff you keep scraping or rasping facets 1 &2 until you get her bending (Floor Tiller).... to long string tiller you mainly remove wood from facet #3 at the top but for every 20 scrapes on the Facet #3 I'll take 10 off facets #1 &2 initially..... as the bow gets to the short string and your stalking final tiller I may cut down on the Facet #1&2 scrapes to 5 for every 20 on facet#3...... and none on facets 1 &2 towards the last 4 or 5" ...Clear as mud now??......   :D   .. Terry
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2004, 07:50:00 AM »
Thanks for the heads up David.... I'll allow for that....  :D  .... Terry
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2004, 07:53:00 AM »
Yea that muddies it up pretty clear   :confused:  

I thought tillering like this it was supposed to just fall into place   "[tunglaff]"  at least that's what all you guys keep saying.

Once you get it tillered do you round off all the edges of the facets and what does that do to weight and tiller?
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2004, 08:19:00 AM »
Mickey,

It's actually pretty easy.  Starting with a bow blank laid out to the outline of the bow and with limbs 7/8 inch thick.  I start by using a drawing compass set at 3/8".  I strike my thickness lines on the side of the bow down both sides and through the handle.  Next I cut the facets in from the lines to the center of the bow on the belly (1&2).  This will give you a peak down the center. Use these facets to get the bow moving on floor tiller.  Now put in #3 down the top.  Use it to finish up the tiller.  Adjust 1&2 for weight.  After you do a few you can keep all three facets the same width an keep the limb right and regular through out the process.

When your down tillering use your scraper or bowyers edge to clean up the edges.

See easy.  LOL

Mike
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2004, 10:19:00 AM »
Steve I missed your post... That sounds like a neat trick.... I've had it in the back of my mind from the start that I would probably be doing a sinew job on this one...And with the auction happening late June earlu July it looks like I have plenty of time to get it done and cured........Terry
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2004, 11:01:00 AM »
Terry, you are good man.   Very precise with your measurements too. The stave is looking good. I'm glad  y'all like my tillering  flages. Is there a link to this auction? I may do some hand made arrows for it. BTW I just changed a washer on my facet in the tub. Time to replace the kitchen sink now. :)
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2004, 12:44:00 PM »
Cool Jawge... Just as long as ya don't get Farrah out in your shop... I don't think the misses would understand....Well here's the bow pulling 55#@24".....     http://mail4.cableaz.com/~tpetko/auctionbow13.htm    

Now I'm gonna fit her up with Horn Nocks
  http://mail4.cableaz.com/~tpetko/hornnocks1.htm  

 
And Sinew back her.....
     http://mail4.cableaz.com/~tpetko/sinew.html    


Then I'll tiller her out to a finished 55#@28".... Terry
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2004, 01:45:00 PM »
Terry, looks good. Nice tiller. Ya done good. What's with the sinew.
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2004, 03:00:00 PM »
Have to agree with Jawge, why sinew a perfectly tillered osage bow with great growth rings? Unless you are trying add weight and a little reflex in which case I'd choose a crappier piece of wood for the project.
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Re: Saint Jude Auction Bow Build Along
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2004, 03:44:00 PM »
How long is the stave, Terry?
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