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Offline the Ferret

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2006, 07:59:00 PM »
I went ahead and tapered the last 10" of each end down to 1/2" tips and the crack is still there and if anything it's worse. It runs within a quarter inch or so of the back.

Truthfully I don't want to waste any more time on this piece of wood.

I can substitute a piece of my stock if you want, just so Tuselton still gets credit for donating the stave. He could not have known about these deep unseen flaws and I don't want him to feel bad or go thru any more expense.
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2006, 08:15:00 PM »
Mickey, good work to give it a try and find what lurks intside the proposed stave. It can be hard to tell without the effort.

I have some possible staves too and would not mind the cost of sending one your way. Let me know.

Thanks Tuselton for donating the first one.
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2006, 09:17:00 PM »
HOLY COW MICKEY!

Do you section old chryslers in that bandsaw?
Is that the 10hp model or the 20?

My 15 year old Craftsman looks like a toy next to that monster!

Too bad about that stave. It's a good thing we have the "A" team on this project. I would have found those flaws exploding on the tillering tree.
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2006, 09:22:00 PM »
Dang I hate when one gives up like this.  Tuselton said he would send another stave but wants me to look at it first.  I think he's loading up his stash and bringing them over tomorrow.

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2006, 11:29:00 PM »
Mickey,
   Can ya make a kids bow out of that crappy stave?

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2006, 08:28:00 AM »
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #86 on: January 14, 2006, 10:06:00 AM »
Terry I was going to box it up and send it back down to ya to play with. Not sure if you could get anything out of it but if you want to try......
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Offline Tim Clark

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2006, 10:17:00 AM »
I know I'm stating the obvious here, but "bows" aren't all that wood is good for. Wood's highest calling, perhaps, but not all. Use that wood - either yourself or give it to someone who will - for another, albeit lesser, purpose. Turkey calls... knife handle scales... ANYthing, just use it. Especially osage - man, in an osage tundra like here, it's just painful to think about it not getting used.

Especially, those thin rings - nice pitch in a call, eh?

Just a thought. No such thing as bad wood, in my book. Just bad applications of its properties. This one isn't destined to be a bow, but don't count it out altogether.

My two cents.

Tim - hates to see good wood gone bad - Clark
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2006, 02:41:00 PM »
Mickey,
Give it to someone that wants it. I just got back from wingnut's shop. It looks like we are going to have to find someone else to donate a stave. Wingnut managed to cut 2 billets out of one stave and they are still wet. I have 2 more staves out there but the odds are, they are going to be billets too. Sorry folks, looks like I stepped in it again.

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Offline Tim Clark

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2006, 03:30:00 PM »
Hey, Terry, from where I'm standing there's not a thing to be sorry about! I sure hope Killdeer pipes up here, she's much better at helping get the right things said than I am. I know how you feel, I get that way all too often. We're always harder - hardest - on ourselves. Imagine for a moment that it was someone else - what would you be feeling, thinking, or saying, to THEM? I think you'd be first to offer comfort, and remind them that they were giving a good thing, with the best motivations and intentions. And ya know? - you'd be right.

As for billets, I just spent a large part of the lunch time (okay, and a bit more than that) looking up splicing, etc. Timely thing to do - even Rusty posted that some of the best bows are from billets, since it's easier to find good wood 36" long than it is to find a good full length stave. A good bowyer, and a good "modified fishtail splice," and you may just have a better bow than a full length stave could ever produce. Plus, a lot easier to induce reflex or deflex that way.

Ya done good, friend. I know that you're feeling bad about it, but it makes me and I'm sure most if not all of us ache for ya. Anyone that would have donated any wood, it could have been the same exact thing. Just remember - think what you'd say to someone else. And then, take it to heart. Okay? Besides, that stave is destined to be something else....

"St. Jude's Osage Box Turkey Call"

"St. Jude's Osage-Handled Knife"

"St. Jude's Osage Smoking Chips" - okay, maybe not! lol!

"St. Jude's Osage Billy Club" - hmmmmm....

"St. Jude's Osage Flute"

"St. Jude's Osage........."

Well, you know what I mean...

Cheer up, Bud. And God Bless you.
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Offline the Ferret

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2006, 08:40:00 PM »
Terry, unless you were superman with xray vision you could have seen the problems. i've looked at a lot of osage and didn't find them until I had done quite a bit of work to it and removed a lot of wood. Like I said I didn't want you to feel bad.

In the meantime I have a piece, Shaun has volunteered a piece and George Nagel has volunteered a piece so we have wood. I am not in charge of this project, as far as I can tell Terry Petko is team leader. I'll wait for his instuctiion on how to proceed. In the meantime I may just remove a little bark and stuff on the piece I have.
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Offline Josh_IOWA

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #91 on: January 15, 2006, 11:08:00 AM »
tim, I gave some to a friend with some hickory chips.  I am not sure how that turned out but it is a fruit wood.  I have been pondering yellow and orange mulch around the house.
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Offline Tim Clark

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #92 on: January 15, 2006, 02:35:00 PM »
Hey, Josh - yeah, I hear ya, I've been told that it smokes well - what I meant was, being in an osage tundra like here, "BURNING" it would be sacriligious, lol!

Actually, I've still got two saplings that keep sprouting in the spring, so perhaps there's hope that I'll find a winter hardy osage for Zone 3!

Also, Chris R sent me an osage board and a bamboo backing, and Mike Byrg sent an osage stave. There's osage around here, after all!!
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #93 on: January 15, 2006, 10:20:00 PM »
Well, I've recieved a couple of offers on staves for the St Judes project. Was kinda hoping Terry Petko would come on and help with some advice.
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #94 on: January 16, 2006, 01:50:00 AM »
I can't wait for you guys to get to the point where we can choose up spined shafts. I've emailed Nick and volunteered to all the necessary arrow work that is needed. I intend to do the fletching for sure and I'm willing to do the paint as well. if some of you guys would give me some suggestions about what you think would be appropriate for a lofty project such as this - I'd do a few mock ups so we could discuss the final look. You can all email pics directly to me if you have them. These arrows need to be as sweet as the bow.

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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #95 on: January 16, 2006, 07:44:00 AM »
Hi guys.... I was up Javie hunting ( was scheduled to be out there for the week) but a touch of stomach flu sent me packing for home late yesterday..... Mickey ..... I believe Shaun had the first offer for a make up stave I just replied to an e-mail from him and you should have a package coming your way.....
Terry..... There's a lot to a stave that nobody can see ,no matter what their experience level,until the shavings start hitting the floor.... The ST Judes Auction is not just a contribution of money to a worthy cause from Trad Gang members, It's a contribution of the heart..... Nobody will have a bigger contribution than what you offered up.... Thank You.... Wood has a spirit to it and that piece of Osage just didn't want to be a bow..... I'm sure it will talk to someone and wind up happy as something else....   :)  Terry
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #96 on: January 16, 2006, 10:40:00 AM »
Sorry to hear you got sick Terry. Think it was the dehydrated food?   "[dead]"   LOL..... Are you going back when you feel better? Did you spot Joe while you were there?

Good deal on Shaun's stave. I'll be looking forward to it and let you know when it arrives. I'l also let the other offering parties know.

Thanks Terry.
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #97 on: January 16, 2006, 12:50:00 PM »
Well I got to thinking about the piece Tussleton sent....maybe I could get a kids bow out of it, if I narrowed it and thinned it enough. So I went down and scraped it into 1 ring. I narrowed it to a little less than 1" wide and got the nasty knot in the handle (which I also reduced to about 3/4" in diameter)to mostly go away, just a big dip in the side of the fade now. I thinned the limbs to near nothing and I just can't escape that nasty crack that runs diagonally thru the limb OR the big honking non bending knot in the other limb. I tried guys...I really did. It's just not meant to be.    :mad:

I'm going to go take a shower and then run up to Chad Jones and try to tag a whitetail. Feel like killing sumpthin!
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2006, 02:50:00 PM »
Mickey,
  You didn't need to do that, unless you just needed something to kill time. Shoot Mickey stick one for me.

Terry
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Re: Saint Judes Team Osage
« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2006, 08:43:00 PM »
I know terry but it's a sickness..if there is a bow in a piece of wood I want to get it out of there. LOL

I'm not done yet.....
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