Author Topic: The Beauty of Osage... Buildalong finishing up tiller (Read 38800 times)

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #120 on:** January 26, 2006, 12:18:00 PM »

Thanks everybody for the kind words

I love half days at school! Got home at 10 oclock :D . So, with all this free time, I said to myself "What should I do? Clean the kitchen? Do a few loads of laundry? Maybe clean my room? Phhh, yeah right!" So I worked on bows

I think the handle glued up pretty good, don't see any really major problems with the glue line

Here's how it's looking right now

When it started out the limbs were asymetrical, but I tried to make the top fade longer than the bottom to make the limbs equal length but still have the handle lower on the center line. It worked, but I didn't like the looks of it, so I drew out the handle and fades again, and now have two symetrical limbs.

1gutpile · « **Reply #121 on:** January 26, 2006, 01:26:00 PM »

She gonna be purdy son..have you got her tilled yet?..gut

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #122 on:** January 26, 2006, 01:56:00 PM »

not yet. I had it on the long string, but a hinge at the fade pulled up that sliver. I've got some sinew on the way, so I'm going to give it a bunch of sinew and keep on goin

I decided to take the plunge and recurve the tips a little. Not a huge amount, but enough to help reduce the stack for my long draw.

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #123 on:** January 26, 2006, 02:54:00 PM »

Here's one tip all nice and curvy

Purpleheart accent stripe, as always

I found doing this that osage is a LOT easier to recurve than white wood, at least in my experience. Looking forward to doing it some more

1gutpile · « **Reply #124 on:** January 26, 2006, 02:55:00 PM »

Hinge at the fade..Hummm. Must of been a good one.....Is the patch to correct the hinge or just the splinter.?..You gonna boil the tips for the curves?..Make sure you put a tight strap of metal on the belly before you make the bend...Take it slow Luke don't rush it bro..What is your draw?..Luke you gonna be a recovery pro after this one....gut

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #125 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:00:00 PM »

The patch is to cover the hinge, but the handle also popped off, so I glued on a longer handle to cover the hinge. You can't really see it in the pic but there is a metal strap on the belly.

I draw 29. On a short day.

"You're gonna be a recovery pro after this one"
LOL. I'm going to need to be if I keep making bows like I normally do

Oh yeah, I used dry heat to bend it.

Dano · « **Reply #126 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:34:00 PM »

Lookin good Luke, I like it!!

hunt4life · « **Reply #127 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:39:00 PM »

gotta question luke. how do you shape the handle? i mean from the block to what you have now.

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #128 on:** January 26, 2006, 04:28:00 PM »

Adam I bring it to very rough shape with my drawknife, and then finesse it with my nicholson 49 rasp. Great tool.

If my bandsaw was working I might use it instead of the drawknife, but this method works just fine, so long as you are careful not to gouge the limb wood.

Thanks Dano

How long should I leave it in the jig? I used dry heat, if that matters

TaylorJohn · « **Reply #129 on:** January 26, 2006, 04:32:00 PM »

Man, that handle looks pretty sweet (to say the least). I really like the layers, it's awesome.

I can't wait to see'r finished... maybe even shoot her one day

Keep on truckin', you're impressing me more and more.

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #130 on:** January 27, 2006, 08:26:00 PM »

Taylor if all goes as planned, you will get to shoot her, as will many others.

I'm thinking I put in a bit too much recurve for my liking, so is it possible to thin the tip a bit and glue on the underlays without bending them first? This would pull out a bit of the reflex, but I'm just wondering if this would hurt the wood cells. I don't want to reheat and derecurve

BTW just recurved the second tip. Went smooth as silk

Dano · « **Reply #131 on:** January 28, 2006, 07:10:00 AM »

Don't think I'd risk taking some of the curve out. My thoughts are, maybe pike it a little and then get those curves to work a little at full draw.

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #132 on:** January 28, 2006, 06:24:00 PM »

good thoughts Dano. I did a dry run last night though before I read this and it didn't seem to pull out very much reflex at all, so I just went ahead and glued it up.

Biggest mess I've ever seen in my life. :D Glue absolutely everywhere

. The glue is still drying now, I'll get some pics up tomorrow.

P.S. to any beginners following this, I am also a beginner. All the methods and whatnot shown here are probably not the right way to do things, just the way I took. This is not an informational buildalong so much as just posting my progress as I go.

TaylorJohn · « **Reply #133 on:** January 28, 2006, 11:23:00 PM »

Hey, I'm learnin' stuff!

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #134 on:** February 01, 2006, 02:11:00 PM »

sorry it has taken so long for another update. I was having some camera/school/homework/everything else problems. Anyways, back on track.

As of now I have the sides of the tips roughed out, but that's as far as I've gotten. I'm not very happy with how the underlays turned out, one tip especially. I made a very stupid and for some reason figured that the curve didn't need clamps because of the physics involved in bending the wood. Good thing I'm not taking physics.

. Here's a pic of the worst tip. Weird thing is the glue line on the other side of this tip is just fine. This part certainly isn't though. I'm thinking about cutting off these underlays and trying it again. Any opinions?

Here's a pic of the other tip. Some small separations among the lams.

The bow has been in my closest for a couple days, and when I took it out today I noticed these little cracks in the riser. I'm not really worried about them as they will be removed when I take the handle down to final shape, but I'm wondering why they're there, and if anymore troublesome ones will come up.

This one has been there since I glued the handle, but it's gotten a bit larger

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #135 on:** February 01, 2006, 04:36:00 PM »

ttt

should I redo the tips? Should I be worried about the cracks?

wingnut · « **Reply #136 on:** February 01, 2006, 04:43:00 PM »

Luke,

the cracks look like the osage wasn't totally dry and is trying to contract. Should be a problem but keep an eye on it. As far as the tips go, you made your bed now sleep in it. LOL

My dad used to say that and I never have figured what it ment. Why would you make your bed before you sleep in it?

Anyway I'd go with what ya got and make a bow.

It's time to go forward. Use the force, Luke.

LOL

Mike

Carbon Caster · « **Reply #137 on:** February 01, 2006, 05:46:00 PM »

CA glue those cracks and the separations of the lams. Come on Little Fred, make it bend!!!

Dano · « **Reply #138 on:** February 01, 2006, 07:13:00 PM »

Of course I agree with Wingnutty, the Calvinator proved a few years back that Canada has a pretty dry climate, and will cause you greef :mad:

Luke Vander Vennen · « **Reply #139 on:** February 01, 2006, 10:49:00 PM »

Dano man, I wish we had a dry climate this year. It hasn't stopped raining since the day it was officially declared winter :mad:

Alrighty, sounds like it's time to get this baby bending some more.

. I'm up for that.

. I'll find some superglue (that's what CA glue is right?) and fill those cracks.

The moisture thing makes sense. I was just a little confused because the crack in the last pic actually goes into the purpleheart, which was kept in a very dry place. Anyways, it'll have plenty of time to dry out after the sinew

Thanks guys

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