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Rico
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 414
Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 06:35:00 AM »
Double lunged? Does that mean they were both center punched one hit centered the other nicked or were they both nicked shot in the high in the lung shot low? Up hill down hill,tree stand ground.There has to be hundreds of different combinations all which might effect the recovery.
I'm not a doctor and when I perform an autopsy its usally just a guick check to see if I hit those pink ballons or that red fist shaped thingamabob but I really couldn't stuff them back in the box and tell if they were up side down or right side out.
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SRBZ
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Posts: 3336
Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 07:17:00 AM »
Jasn, no, I'm not calling you a liar, if we get personal on here they will delete your posts.
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Rico
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 414
Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 08:20:00 AM »
Is BS the same as lieing? Sometimes I BS.:>)
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James Wrenn
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Posts: 1933
Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 08:43:00 AM »
It depends on how fast the deer is.
A shot deer that is startled or knows you are there runs untill they die.Some can cover a lot of ground in just the few seconds it takes then to die even if you take out the heart.Others are not alerted and in the best cases don't even know they have been shot.They just get dizzy and go down for a dirt nap in a few seconds.Every instance and every deer is different.If I had to put a number on it I would say 70yds would be a good average for what I have killed over the years.Some have gone twice that and many far less but that is a good number for me.
Regaurdless of how far they might run a good hunters tracking skills should be at least twice as good as his shooting skills because sooner or later you will need it. :D
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John Scifres
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Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 08:45:00 AM »
Terrain has a bit to do with it too. I had one run 50 yards and fall another 50 into a hole last year.
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Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 09:12:00 AM »
I've read all these posts and i haven't heard any mention of how long anyone waited until they went after these animals....I believe in many cases even a poorly placed shot on a deer or elk can be retrieved in less than 100 yards if the conditions are right and you have the patience...I've seen some beautifully placed shots with razor edged broadheads never even retrieved due to getting on a trail too soon....or having too many people in the vicinity. i shot an elk one time that went a mile and a half, a good portion of that was up hill too....had 5 guys helping me track it for 6 hours....all of us were amazed it could possibly go that far....but that was a liver / lung shot....even then....it was amazing.....
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January 07, 2008, 11:20:00 AM »
KirkII
I too have seen elk shot double lung, and bleed about a cup or 2 of blood and still be alive 6 hours later!!
Conditions play a big part...
Good point
Jake
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mike g
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Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 12:31:00 PM »
I'm not doubting anyone, I find it interesting....
I do have a couple of I think legitiment Questions....
1). Is there a differance between a Double High Lung hit or a Double Low Lung hit...
2). I know Crazy Sharp is good, Butt whats the differance between a Double Lung hit with Crazy Sharp and Semi Sharp....
If ya poke holes trhu both Lungs, what diff dose it make....
Just curious guys, don't hang me....
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JoeM
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 1463
Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 12:57:00 PM »
Hey Mike,
According to John Jennenerey (I killed his last name) low lung hits are better because in the anatomy of the lung there is a higher concentration of vessels set low as opposed to higher. Also a sharp BH will cut everything it touches where as a dull BH although it will cut some it will also displace some vessels to the side without severing them, resulting in less blood loss. Poking a hole in the lungs will not necesarilly cause the lung to collapse(especially in a high hit) you need the blood to flood out the lung. Joe
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Tree man
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Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 01:18:00 PM »
in answer to the original question-There is no telling. 15-80 yards will encompass the majority of dble lung hits.0-400yards wil take in 99% plus but I'm sure somebody will come up with a true story of something longer even though it is beyond my experience. Adrenaline and individual tenacity make huge differences. I once helped stick 5 arrows in a Javelina and then, out of arrows, we had to wait 5 more minutes for it to expire. They weren't all good hits but the last two were.
John Scifres mentioned it but guys that hunt in level or rolling terrain may not even think about the places where some of us shoot that allow deer to cover 100yards in 3-4 downhill jumps.
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January 07, 2008, 02:23:00 PM »
I agree with Tree man. That said though, I have seen so many different reactions (many of which were unexpected) that I cannot or would not rule out anything, including hopping away like a kangaroo :D .
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Van/TX
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Posts: 1216
Re: how far will they go?
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January 07, 2008, 08:20:00 PM »
Jason, thanks for the offer. I have 2 copies of the mag. One I bought for $3 at a 3-D shoot a few years ago and another that a kind Tradganger like yourself sent me
...Van
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