Not to get off topic and not defending anyone here (I understand the ego thing) but if you read Chucks book "Life at Full Draw", you'll see he catches hell both ways. For many years he did not enter any trophies in PY and got pumbled for that. They called him unsupportive etc. Then I think he entered over a 100 animals, and got pumbled for that also (now he is a show off). Public opinion (trial) is a rough way to go about anything, someone is always going to disagree. I personally got to talk to him and he didn't seem like a bad guy, regardless it's a hell of an accomplishment. I'm new to Trad so I'm not sure who Mr. Duggan is, any links to read about him. Thanks Joe I hope this doesn't get locked.