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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1080 on: February 13, 2011, 07:44:00 AM »
Rob, that looks like a real solid design. Does it make any noise or ever need adjustment?
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1081 on: February 13, 2011, 07:59:00 AM »
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Rob, that looks like a real solid design. Does it make any noise or ever need adjustment?
zero noise or adjustment, no matter what.

i'll add - unlike a sleeve, the hinge fits perfectly every time with no fumbling or worry about dirt, debris, air temps.

talked myself into it - tembo bow blank and connexion hinge.  :thumbsup:   ;)
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1082 on: February 13, 2011, 08:10:00 AM »
Rob "talked myself into it - tembo bow blank and connexion hinge."

When you do this project is it possible you could do it as a "build along"?

Not that I would ever try it myself(too much at risk) for my shaky hands.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1083 on: February 13, 2011, 08:18:00 AM »
yep, it'll be a 'build-a-long' for sure.  gonna do it the super simple way - external and not recessed.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1084 on: February 13, 2011, 08:38:00 AM »
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When you do this project is it possible you could do it as a "build along"?

God bless,Mudd
Good deal!!  I suspect this will be "down the road" a bit, eh?  I guess for a build along the "simple" was would be best.

...but...Rob, I know you can tuck that thang flush into the riser...not too difficult and it will be killer!!

Been studying it a bit more...no biggie, especially if you have all the tools.

Either way it'll be a great show!    :thumbsup:

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1085 on: February 13, 2011, 08:56:00 AM »
no, not that difficult to mortise the hinge in, just takes a jig and a router with carbide bit, after the hinge "hole" is created.  however, a simplistic installation will make it more accessible to the masses using "hand" tools.  

also, instead of recessing the hinge plate it could be "covered" with a riser overlay veneer (as done on mohawks).  this method insures that narrow throated handles don't lose any integrity/strength, and i like that kinda handle/grip.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1086 on: February 13, 2011, 09:22:00 AM »
The hinge clap referred to in this thread is something that I have heard about but only seen once and it was caused by a long draw [30"] and extremely light arrows resulting in too much energy staying with the bow instead of transferring to the arrow, once a reasonable arrow weight was used it stopped in that case. It could be that there are bows out there that just may leave too much energy with the bow for the hinge to work well.
I tend to use thinner leather than most do because most of my TD's are ordered with locator grips and by the time that I overlay the hinge the riser gets pretty deep resulting in a larger grip, I like thick leather because it will help greatly with "perceived" or felt handshock as well, if I build a Hill style grip I use a thicker Elk hide.  The thin leather will move to the side a little more where the hinge slides together, maybe that's why it looks "not as beautiful" to some....or maybe it's just not as beautiful! But they do work well for me. Strong, no tools for takedown and you don't know its there when you have it in your hand. Look forward to your build along Rob.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1087 on: February 13, 2011, 09:23:00 AM »
I can't wait for the "build along" to begin! If it looks like something I can do I'll have to buy a Tembo blank and give it a try.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1088 on: February 13, 2011, 09:40:00 AM »
Hi Vince.  Didn't mean to put your work down..yes, it is the thin leather bunching up...the leather not your bow!!

You do beautiful work...I hope to own one of your creations some day.     :thumbsup:

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1089 on: February 13, 2011, 10:04:00 AM »
No problem Tony.......I been beat up by every expert that comes down the pike and I'm gettin pretty thick skinned! I think everybody that has this obsession of ours should build at least one bow.....I built my first one 18 years ago and haven't said a negative word about anyone's product since. Have fun.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1090 on: February 13, 2011, 10:08:00 AM »
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I think everybody that has this obsession of ours should build at least one bow.....I built my first one 18 years ago and haven't said a negative word about anyone's product since. Have fun.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1091 on: February 13, 2011, 05:38:00 PM »
"no, not that difficult to mortise the hinge in, just takes a jig and a router with carbide bit"

My question is, would mortising have a possible consequence of weakening the strip of fiberglass across the back of the handle, or is the flex in that area minimal or non-existent?  Since I like a straight grip I don't think it would create a weak area in the grip, but I would not want the fiberglass to lift at the mortised spot.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1092 on: February 13, 2011, 05:46:00 PM »
greg, as to whether or not to mortise the hinge, for me that would depend on the depth of the handle.  for a standard wedge/teardrop hill, not a problem.  i like narrow handles, so not mortising is the way to go as i feel that would compromise riser strength at a critical point.  what vince does with mohawks (which have nice slim, narrow handles) is to inlay the hinge into the riser's back overlay.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1093 on: February 13, 2011, 05:59:00 PM »
Thanks, Rob. The one I did on the Cheetah blank nine years ago I did not mortise and it worked fine. My Liberty by Allen Boice is done the same way Vince does his, within the overlay.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1094 on: February 13, 2011, 06:06:00 PM »
i'm ordering the tembo blank tomorrow.  i'll include special requirements for the handle back to be left squared up.  got a line on a connexion hinge for a good price, too.  

like i need another project added to the looooong list.    :rolleyes:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1095 on: February 13, 2011, 10:20:00 PM »
Had a good day and a half hunt ,Just got home. Saw Turkeys everywhere it seemed,a few deer, missed at least a dozen shots at squirrels but did kill a small porker.Anybody can hit a big one....With a Hill Big 5 of course.RC

Midday nap. I had a flock of hens walk up within 15 yards of me while I was laying in the grass napping.Snored em up I guess. Skyward pic..

 

Drone of some sort...

 


grill pig. My first with a wood arrow in 5-6 years..RC

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1096 on: February 13, 2011, 10:34:00 PM »
Onya RC !!! A hog that size is just about perfect for eating .

and wood arrows rock !!!!!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1097 on: February 13, 2011, 10:41:00 PM »
Hoorah! Good shooting RC.

Thanks for sharing brother.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1098 on: February 13, 2011, 10:50:00 PM »
Gotta have a pic of the bow...RC

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #1099 on: February 13, 2011, 10:54:00 PM »
Once again RC,table fare. Good shootin!!!
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