Author Topic: HH bug got me ... Part One! (Read 349719 times)

typical2 · « **Reply #12960 on:** February 14, 2013, 08:20:00 PM »

Love those 7 lakes youth bows!

ArrowPlane · « **Reply #12961 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:53:00 PM »

Link to the writeup on my two new Hills...

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Rossco7002 · « **Reply #12962 on:** February 16, 2013, 09:34:00 PM »

Has anyone encountered a disconnect between shooting woodies and aluminium out of the same bow?

I'm setting up an Old Tom right now and there's a 10 pound difference in dynamic spine between the two arrows (with the wood being the stiffer of the two).

Specs are:

63@28 bow drawn to 26

Aluminium - 1916 at 28.25 inches with 175 gr head
Wood - 55-60 at 28 nches with 160 gr head

I don't get it.... Shouldn't the dynamic spine of two different arrows be the same?

WESTBROOK · « **Reply #12963 on:** February 16, 2013, 10:01:00 PM »

I've noticed the same thing Rossco. My bow is 57@29, it shoots a 70-75 fir with 125 at 31", a 2020 (74#) with 225g at 30.5" and a CX150 (67#)with 250g at 30.5".

The carbons are 1 step wierder than the aluminum in this aspect.

It has to do with how fast the arrow material can recover from paradox. Wood is the slowest, aluminum then carbon is the fastest. I've heard you can up the spine more on hardwood shafts VS cedar cause they are heavier and recover slower.

Also keep in mind how you are effecting the "center shot" of the bow going from a woody of 11/32 or 23/64 down to 5/16 or 19/64 on the aluminum.

And they said this is the simple archery.

Eric

Bud B. · « **Reply #12964 on:** February 16, 2013, 10:37:00 PM »

I'm shooting 200gr up front on my 28.75" 1916 Legacys out of my Dave Johnson that's 54@ 28. Seems unusually high point weight for that arrow but the flight does not lie.

Shooting 49# spine poplar (from magnus) at 29" and 125gr Magnus 2 blades up front I have equally good flight.

Hard to figure, but that's where a good wood test kit has helped me. (magnus again

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MT Longbow · « **Reply #12965 on:** February 17, 2013, 09:49:00 AM »

Any more pics of your fellas OLD TOM from Miller?

Love to see em all!

Can't wait to see mine,

Patrick

jeffg · « **Reply #12966 on:** February 17, 2013, 10:06:00 AM »

55#@27"

MT Longbow · « **Reply #12967 on:** February 17, 2013, 12:22:00 PM »

Very nice!

Rossco7002 · « **Reply #12968 on:** February 18, 2013, 04:50:00 PM »

Well, I've been remiss in posting pics of some additions to the stable so here they are.

Miller Old Tom - 63@28 stringfollow
Schulz American longbow - 65@28

Both are amazing shooters. The Schulz is exceptionally quick.

Goshawkin · « **Reply #12969 on:** February 18, 2013, 05:59:00 PM »

Rossco,Nice bows ya got there! What's the length on that Shulz?

Rossco7002 · « **Reply #12970 on:** February 18, 2013, 06:08:00 PM »

The Schulz is 68 and the Miller 66.

I love them both and have taken the bits I like from each and included them in the design for my Expedition.

The size of the limb tips is truly amazing on the Schulz - and it really spits an arrow. It's a masterpiece. I polished and waxed the wood this week and after the hog hunt I'm gonna re- do the handle wrap.

Goshawkin · « **Reply #12971 on:** February 18, 2013, 06:40:00 PM »

Sounds like your Expedition is going to be a beauty.

Yep,I like the deep cored,narrow tipped Shulz style bows myself. I just got a really nice string follow Shulz. 66" 70#@26",brown glass back and belly.

Rossco7002 · « **Reply #12972 on:** February 18, 2013, 06:44:00 PM »

Very nice - bet it slings an arrow. The thing I love about these bows is they are so 'standard' looking for a custom - it's not til you shoot it that you see just how well crafted and designed they are.... I'm hoping the Expedition is a looker as well as a shooter though... Lol

WESTBROOK · « **Reply #12973 on:** February 18, 2013, 06:50:00 PM »

Rossco, Very nice! Is the Schultz straight or have a little back set in it?

Eric

Ron Roehrick · « **Reply #12974 on:** February 18, 2013, 06:55:00 PM »

Rossco you will be very happy with your expedition, I have four of Davids bows with another in the works. His exppedition is his top of the line in looks and perfornance. I have his Hawk 66" and 48lbs at 26" and its the quickest longbow I own and stable as can be with no handshock. David workmanship and skill is as good as it gets hes a real sticler on limb timing and dead center string alignment and a perfectionist at his craft with decades of experience.

Rossco7002 · « **Reply #12975 on:** February 18, 2013, 07:02:00 PM »

@eric - it's got about 3/4 inch of backset. Very gentle in the hand though, comparable to a stringfollow in feel.

@ Ron - I can't wait! David firmed up my specs last week and says he's on schedule for a Mrch delivery. I went with the new carbon backing - in part to help him out with easily sourced materials and also because John Immordino says it dramatically improves an already impecable bow.

Ralphie · « **Reply #12976 on:** February 18, 2013, 09:10:00 PM »

Ross,
You will for sure enjoy your new Expedition. If it is like mine, it will be harder hitting, flatter shooting, and a good deal faster than your Old Tom. The Old Tom will be, on the other hand, a lot smoother, especially since you have string follow.
They will be completely different.
Enjoy your harem!
Ralph

Jacquesbonin · « **Reply #12977 on:** February 19, 2013, 10:49:00 AM »

Ross in answer to the dynamic spine differences between wood and aluminum. The wood arrow recovers slower than the aluminum and the same is true for carbon the aluminum is slower than carbon. When geetting the right arrow out of any bow it is the arrow recovery you are trying to get perfected so that you achieve the best combination of arrow recovery, speed,low noise and shootability, with hootability being most important with a degree of forgivness in your shooting! By the way I have a 70#68"at28 Schults I would like someting a few pounds lighter! Have fun shooting! Jacques

two4hooking · « **Reply #12978 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:07:00 PM »

Speaking of arrows, here are a new batch of tapered douglas fir I just made up for the summer.

Bob B. · « **Reply #12979 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:27:00 PM »

two4hooking ... Nice, nice looking bow as well!

Bob.

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