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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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Brianlocal3

That is great. I'd love to go to his class also
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Ralphie

Good information on Bob Wesley !
thanks ..
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Goshawkin

That's cool. I've never met Mr.Wesley,but from watching his video and reading his articles,he seems like a 1st class guy. I'd love to go to his shooting class also.Never mind the tips you'd pick up,he's got to have some really cool stories to tell. No mater what I'm involved with,logging,falconry,archery,ect., I like to talk to the "old Timers" that were doing it years ago. Alot of those guys were the real deal,they just don't make them like that anymore.

BCWV

I needed a take down for a upcoming hog hunt next month. I got this one finished up and ready to break her in at a 3D shoot this weekend.

66", 52@26, brown glass back and belly with an osage riser.

 

 

 

 

I really want to take a hog with a setup I made, that would be sweet!

Mudd

BCWV ....saweet!!!!

Thanks for sharing.

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Goshawkin

BCWV,That's some nice work! Hope you get a hog with it  :thumbsup:

BCWV


Brianlocal3

Ol' Nick has a wild new edition coming to his house.......
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bicster

Nice work Brad! I hope to see you this weekend.

BigJ1632

Hi fellas.  Need some advice on a back quiver.  I've never used one before and I am looking to get into one as I have fallen in love with my (new to me) HH bow.  I don't want to put a quiver on the bow, so back quiver it is.  I've been thinking on a HH back quiver and was wanting some opinions as to the soft leather or the heavy/stiff model.  Also, the pros and cons of that quiver versus others I have seen on sites such as 3Rivers.  I'm not particularly married to the Howard Hill Brand, although I am pleased thus far.  Thanks for the help.
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toddster

Mr. Wesley is a great guy.  I went to his school 5 years ago.  He is first rate and has vast amount of knowledge of Mr. Hill and the method.  If you have a chance go and learn to shoot from him.  Not saying that he is the only one, but one of the last few.

David Mitchell

BigJ you may want to do a search on back quivers.  There has been tons of discussion on that topic on here.  Lots of opinions expressed.
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ny state land

I thought it was interesting he shoots both split and three under. He also has shot wood in the past but predominantly shoots aluminum now.It makes you think that Howard would have been open to some of the newer arrow and bow making  materials out there today.

If you go with the stiff Hill model, I would get the longer model if your draw is over 26" or if you like longer than 27" bop arrows. I would suggest getting a bottle of Neats glove oil. I got two of them for a father and son, they came round and hard. Soak them on the inside of the quiver. The glove oil will make the hard ones pliable to conform to your particular back shape. Heating them up in the sun in the back window of your car with the oil treatment will soften them as well. But be warned, wear a shirt that you don't care so much for, because the color will bleed out and stain your shirt, a lot.
However, once they are broken into your own shape, you will never use anything else.

centaur

I have the soft leather HH quiver, and it is a winner. I only use it for target/stumping so far, but I may try it for whitetails this fall.
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Goshawkin

Howard said that he thought that people who said metal shafts are better may be right. and that wooden arrows went with the spirit of old time archery and demanded more from the archer.
I wonder what he could have done with today's aluminums or carbons?

Bud B.

QuoteOriginally posted by Goshawkin:
Howard said that he thought that people who said metal shafts are better may be right. and that wooden arrows went with the spirit of old time archery and demanded more from the archer.
I wonder what he could have done with today's aluminums or carbons?
Honestly, I think he could shoot carbon and aluminum as well as he did wood. Not sure about shooting better. He was about as good as one could get.
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jeffg

I have an Art Vincent Back Quiver, I feel he makes the best one out there and I tried alot of them.  Cedar Ridge Leather Works archeryleather.com
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akbowbender

I have one of the soft HHA back quivers that I really like. It took the shape of my back quickly without any help.

I'm thinking about getting a stiffer one for practice, though, as I sometimes have a hard time getting the arrows back in the soft one with it on my back because of where it bends around my back.
Chuck

Ralphie

I have owned the HHA soft leather back quiver, and ended up selling it. The soft HHA model contours to your back quickly, but at the same time the opening at the top gets smaller as the quiver contours. I had difficulty putting arrows in.
The stiffer HHA quiver is based (I think) on the original, and it may keep its shape better. It also would take a lot longer (years I am thinking) to break in.

I came across Art Vincent at the Baltimore Bowmen shoot, and picked up a back quiver from him. He specifically pointed out his quiver had a stiffer construction at the top so the opening would not collapse.

The design of the HHA quiver is in some ways better(IMHO) than Art's,
Why?
because the stitching goes down the outside.
The Cedar Ridge quiver (Art Vincent's), stitching goes down the back. In the summer time you will sweat right there, and the lacing does fall apart, It will need to be re laced. Not a big deal, but still a pain.
Art Vincent's quiver, (I have the "Rover")is a lot more expensive than the HHA quiver.
If I got a quiver again, I would try the stiff HHA.
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