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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13940 on: June 23, 2013, 01:14:00 AM »
My Shelton may be quicker pound for pound that other Hill style bows, but I've not chrono'd it..

It does appear to shoot an arrow quickly for it's weight !

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13941 on: June 23, 2013, 09:11:00 AM »
My Sheltons have always been pleasingly quick for a straight limbed bow. It may be a hair slower than the backset Classic but it makes it up in sweetness.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13942 on: June 23, 2013, 09:56:00 AM »
In an earlier discussion I mentioned that I don't really shoot with the "Hill style". I found these videos from a few years ago of my form.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13943 on: June 23, 2013, 09:58:00 AM »
I will say she is sweet, and one of the few Hill style bows work well for me. I guess speed isn't that big of a deal but it and arrow weight give you kinetic energy=penetration.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13944 on: June 23, 2013, 10:41:00 AM »
Jeff, it may seem a little slow compared to a Robertson or Stewart Slammer, they're 2 different animals. Speed is a good thing, but not near as important as some make it out to be.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13945 on: June 23, 2013, 04:02:00 PM »
Since I will be flying to B.C. for the Longbow Safari instead of driving and taking the ferry, and since I have to fly with all of my gear for a nine-day stay on the island, I am having to keep my camping gear light.

So this weekend I tested my gear on a canoe trip. Good thing I tested it, because the summer-weight sleeping bag was a total fail, too thin and light to stay warm once it got below 40. WIll have to take my normal backpacking sleeping bag and go a little heavier than I planned. My solo tent worked perfectly though, and the new mini lantern is a keeper.

All in all, it was a good practice session for camping on Vancouver Island next to Comox Lake. Along the way I managed to catch some trout, saw some beautiful scenery, and for those of you Hill Shooters who will be hunting moose this fall, the moose photo is for you. Taken 50 yards from my tent, right after I caught that big brown trout.

If the British Columbia sky over Comox Lake and the Longbow Safari will be anything like sunset last night, I am going to have a hard time counting the hours until Saturday gets here and I can head out for adventure. 'Ol "Gone Outback" is getting antsy to kill some targets, longbow style!

   

   

   


   

   

   

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13946 on: June 23, 2013, 04:08:00 PM »
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13947 on: June 23, 2013, 04:44:00 PM »
Thanks for sharing your trial run with us Rik.

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Now go sic'em!

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13948 on: June 23, 2013, 05:10:00 PM »
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In an earlier discussion I mentioned that I don't really shoot with the "Hill style". I found these videos from a few years ago of my form.
Decide for yourself.
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folks, having hunted with charlie, and seen him consistently squarely BBQ running rabbits, he is proof that it's not "a specific form" that will get the job done consistently, it's your personal consistent and accurate form that does the deed.  

do not be overly concerned that you are or are not emulating the the archery form of someone else.  be more mindful of your personal physical archery form, and how it applies to "consistent accuracy".  

for as with other free form aiming sports ... archery, consistency be thy name.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13949 on: June 23, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
You could not have said it better, Rob.  :thumbsup:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13950 on: June 24, 2013, 09:45:00 AM »
Rik, what kind of bow is "gone outback"?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13951 on: June 24, 2013, 09:51:00 AM »
Some inspiring and thought provoking words:

 
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13952 on: June 24, 2013, 11:13:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
In an earlier discussion I mentioned that I don't really shoot with the "Hill style". I found these videos from a few years ago of my form.
Decide for yourself.
   my form  
folks, having hunted with charlie, and seen him consistently squarely BBQ running rabbits, he is proof that it's not "a specific form" that will get the job done consistently, it's your personal consistent and accurate form that does the deed.  

do not be overly concerned that you are or are not emulating the the archery form of someone else.  be more mindful of your personal physical archery form, and how it applies to "consistent accuracy".  

for as with other free form aiming sports ... archery, consistency be thy name. [/b]
Rob,
Very well said.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13953 on: June 24, 2013, 12:41:00 PM »
Love those quotes Bud. I often seem to rush through days as if there is a "goal" at the end. Life is too enjoy daily to the fullest and the "goal" is to cross the River Jordon with no regrets and bow your head before God knowing all is well. RC

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13954 on: June 24, 2013, 12:48:00 PM »
Amen...
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13955 on: June 24, 2013, 02:40:00 PM »
There are many ways to shoot a longbow well.

Some are similar to the way Howard Hill shot, others lean toward Olympic archery style, and others fall somewhere in between. They all work----when done consistently and with perfect form, each and every shot.

However, there are three easy ways to make sure you shoot poorly. The three deadly sins of the archer.

I am sure I will see many, many shooters at the North American Longbow Safari next week exhibiting these sins, but the problem is, most shooters don’t even realize what they are doing wrong. And that is why they don’t shoot consistently well. With just a little coaching, they could all shoot much better than they are now.

And so, without further adieu, here are The Three Deadly Sins of the Archer (according to Rik).

NOT REACHING FULL DRAW.
This is the most common error I see. For the most part, it is not caused by being over bowed. It is not a physical issue------it is all in the mind. Some do it because they are trying to get rid of the arrow as fast as possible. Others do it because they panic just before they reach full draw. Others do it because that is how their friends all shoot and they think that is the way it should be done. This archer’s sin takes more work than the other two to fix, but it’s not rocket science, and many great, great shots have put in the hours of practice needed to overcome the error and consistently come to full draw, each and every shot. They are now “Happy Campers.”

DROPPING THE BOW ARM.
You have probably watched dozens of people at every 3-D shoot you have attended making this mistake. At the exact moment they release the string, they drop the bow arm, either straight down, or down and off to either the left or right side. This archer’s sin is caused by not following through with the shot until the arrow reaches the mark. The result is erratic arrow placement. The solution is to keep your bow hand on target until after the arrow strikes. If you can do that, you are well down the road to consistent accuracy.

STRING HAND FLYING OUT FROM THE FACE. Many call this “plucking the string” but that is an inaccurate description for the problem. If you “pluck” the string straight back, directly in line with the arrow, you can shoot phenomenally well. That is called “follow through” with the string hand. Watch an Olympic archer shoot, and you will see what I am talking about.------they are well coached. Some of the best shooters either don’t move the string hand at all upon release, or they follow through with the string hand as I described above. The archer’s sin is to move the string hand out from the face upon releasing the string. This will send the arrow either slightly left or slightly right, depending on whether the shooter is left or right handed. Either way, it is not conducive to consistent, accurate shooting.

As we all know, there is no “one way” to shoot a longbow well, but there are definitely ways to MAKE SURE you don’t shoot well. The three examples above will assure it.

P.S.  Pat asked above what kind of bow “Gone Outback” is. It’s a 66-inch Sunset Hill takedown. A Bamboo Beauty. Nate made it for my third trip to Australia. Even the compound guys I was hunting with there had to admit, it’s one great-looking bow.

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13956 on: June 24, 2013, 03:12:00 PM »
What a provoked thought RC.  :thumbsup:

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13957 on: June 24, 2013, 03:17:00 PM »
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What a provoked thought RC.   :thumbsup:  

I'll second the Amen!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13958 on: June 24, 2013, 03:55:00 PM »
All this talk of shooting Hill bows had me pumped so I went and shot my Expedition for a few minutes despite my neck being so torqued up I can hardly get out of bed in the morning.... Frowns from the wife but I sure feel better mentally (if not physically)!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #13959 on: June 24, 2013, 04:03:00 PM »
What RC said works for me as well.

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