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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14080 on: July 06, 2013, 04:25:00 PM »
I really like the wood combo on Second Chance.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14081 on: July 06, 2013, 04:46:00 PM »
I agree Jeff, the Yew Lams on that bow are gorgeous to look at.  And the performance of that Boo/Yew combo is really something....a hard bow to put down.  Heck, it's hard to put any of them down!

The one named Red Hawk is the one I am trying to determine whether it's a Cheetah or a Half Breed.  The Lams look more like Juniper than Yew.  The serial # on that bow is what's throwing me as Craig said it's only a name on the bow....that he's never built a Red Hawk.  I need to call and ask him about the "R" in front of what would normally denote a Half Breed Serial designation.

   
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14082 on: July 06, 2013, 04:58:00 PM »
Lets talk bow length…


So I've heard the formula that says take your drawlength and add 40" for the proper Hill bow length. Does anyone deviate from that?

Does anyone subscribe to shooting a shorter-than-"normal" Hill bow for their draw length?

I've got a 25.5" draw length and my only bow, a Schulz Trophy Hunter, is 66". I love it and it fits me great. I'm thinking of ordering a back up from Mr. Miller and I'm considering trying a shorter bow for maneuverability's sake; especially because I hunt whitetails in thick cedar swamps.

So, what are your thoughts on bow length?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14083 on: July 06, 2013, 06:07:00 PM »
Green, regarding Craig saying that it's a name on the bow--I have a friend who had Craig build him a Redman but he wanted it named "Tecumseh" and that is the name Craig put on it where usually it would say "Redman".  So evidently that's what happened here.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14084 on: July 06, 2013, 06:21:00 PM »
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Originally posted by False Cast:
Lets talk bow length…


So I've heard the formula that says take your drawlength and add 40" for the proper Hill bow length. Does anyone deviate from that?

Does anyone subscribe to shooting a shorter-than-"normal" Hill bow for their draw length?

I've got a 25.5" draw length and my only bow, a Schulz Trophy Hunter, is 66". I love it and it fits me great. I'm thinking of ordering a back up from Mr. Miller and I'm considering trying a shorter bow for maneuverability's sake; especially because I hunt whitetails in thick cedar swamps.

So, what are your thoughts on bow length?
I'm new to the Hill style bow, but my Toelke Super D is 66" and I draw 29". I can't say enough good things about it.  I know another tradganger who shoots a 64" Super D with his 29" draw.

I suspect I would need a different sized bow if I went with a different bowyer, but don't have any experience there just yet.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14085 on: July 06, 2013, 06:39:00 PM »
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Green, regarding Craig saying that it's a name on the bow--I have a friend who had Craig build him a Redman but he wanted it named "Tecumseh" and that is the name Craig put on it where usually it would say "Redman".  So evidently that's what happened here.
That's what I had Craig do with my Half Breed...named it "Second Chance".  But look at the serial # above...that's what has me guessing.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14086 on: July 06, 2013, 06:39:00 PM »
Green,
I believe that's a Cheetah. Looks like mine.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14087 on: July 06, 2013, 07:05:00 PM »
I think Butch has the answer for you.

As always Butch... you nailed it!!

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14088 on: July 06, 2013, 07:07:00 PM »
False cast, a 66" backset bow will fit you nicely, better to be a touch long than too short. Your drawing PAST 25" so you would go up to the next length or 66" for 26" draw.  You could go a 64" in a string-follow profile, personal choice. I shoot backset with a glass bow, the stringfollow glass bows don't "kick" appreciably less.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14089 on: July 06, 2013, 07:07:00 PM »
By the way how big is your wingspan and chest? I draw about the same.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14090 on: July 06, 2013, 07:17:00 PM »
I draw 26" on a good day and I like 64" stringfollow bows.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14091 on: July 06, 2013, 07:48:00 PM »
Butch and Mudd....Thanks for the info.  Are the Cheetah's marked RH?  Haven't seen one yet so I'm just confirming.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14092 on: July 06, 2013, 10:03:00 PM »
False Cast - David can build you a truly custom bow to YOUR draw length. In my experience I would choose the following:

Backset - 66 inch
Stringfollow - 64 would work great - 66 will feel 'perfect'

A Miller bow will not let you down if you listen to David's recommendations - I love them!
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14093 on: July 06, 2013, 10:50:00 PM »
Green,
My Cheetah is marked CH, and Craig put the name I wanted on the bow, rather than "Cheetah". Kinda confusing with your bow, but it does look like a Cheetah.   :dunno:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14094 on: July 06, 2013, 11:19:00 PM »
The bow model is determined by the woods that make up the bow.

If you look on the Howard Hill Archery webpage you can read all of the different wood combinations that make up each model.

Usually the letters in front of the serial number lets you know which bowyer built that particular bow.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14095 on: July 06, 2013, 11:45:00 PM »
Making a new bow for myself and the materials are trickling in. So far I have the glass (brown+brown), the lams are ground (3 pair- lamboo),waiting for a special piece of Myrtle that should be here Monday.

Should have it finished by the end of the week and I'm pretty excited about it.

Also building arrows for it and it's sister from Surewood Douglas Fir. Steve got the shafts to me really quick. Super nice stuff. I got the short shafts to save money and there's a very good portion of the 24 that are premium... though they all look primo to me.

At this point I've got one dozen tapered (9"),nocked (Red Bohning Classic), stained, clear dipped, cap dipped, crested and two of them fletched (white cock feather and natural barred hens) so far... I keep my fletcher by my easy chair and work on fletching in the evening while reading.
The second dozen is tapered and stained. Will do the clear coat tomorrow.

Made a brand new armguard to replace my "ancient" guard that still works, but I just wanted a new one. Going with a more "Hill style" cuff guard. We'll see how I like that.

Also have plans for a "summer" Hill pattern back quiver, but need to go to the city for material.

 
I just love this stuff!!   :archer:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14096 on: July 06, 2013, 11:59:00 PM »
Sounds good Charlie. How 'bout some pics when you can.

Funny....I've seen brown/brown glass bows mentioned a few times on this thread lately. Mine will have an osage riser w/straight grip.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14097 on: July 07, 2013, 05:42:00 AM »
Charlie if I had a tenth of your talent!

I will always be a fan and am super proud to call someone with your knowledge, skill, and integrity a friend and a traditional brother.

I know that some of what makes us who we are wasn't always the most pleasant experiences but like you, I am also proud to have served.(Thanks for yours!)

Come Monday or Tuesday I hope to be posting up some photos of my latest "Dream bow".

God bless,Mudd

PS: Some rabbit trails just seem to enticing to avoid...lol
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14098 on: July 07, 2013, 07:32:00 AM »
Thanks y'all for helping me sort through this.  I forwarded the picture to Craig as there's gotta be a reason for that "R".
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #14099 on: July 07, 2013, 10:16:00 AM »
I talked to Steve (Northern Mist) Friday and he said I should have my Shelton in two weeks. Can't wait!
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