HH bug got me ... Part One!

[cahaba]

Thanks yall. You saved me some money at least till I can shoot one and see if it "fits" me.
He said he was going to be at Tannehill. It's right down the road from me and I had planned on checking them out there.
I sure wish I could find one of John's bows that cheap. All I have seen was expensive for used but they are probably worth it.

[Goshawkin]

I don't have to go into work today until noon,so I shot a few bows this morning. They looked good in the sun,so I took a phone pic.
Both are Timberlines. Bamboo with the dark riser is a "The Safari" 66" 55#@27". The other is an all yew,"Yew Bet" 64" 56#@27"
   

Both bows were right on the money. Just realised all the stuff in this pic came from Tradgang. Bought the bow(both of them) from MikeBiz,the Hushpuppies from Terry and traded with Brianlocal for the arrows!
Thanks Tradgang!      
   

[Linwood Hines]

I DID SHOOT them at ETAR.  I was very pleasantly surprised by the smoothness and the "snap" from even the lightest of his bows there.  Now, y'all have to remember, I'm kinda new at this Hill style bow, and am stoked about them in general, but have no long term shooting history with this style, so my critique isn't as valid as you all with a long shooting history with this style bow.  But now I have shot a few different HHA bows (did as many as I could at ETAR) - and I liked the Joel's Jet bows enough to order one!  SO, I say try 'em!  I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF MY ASSESSMENT OF HIS BOWS is valid.
One note:  if Joel Templin's (Jet Archery)bows and integrity are as fine as my impression with his young son, who, was very courteous, respectful, and quite the fine young man that any of us would be proud to have as a son, at ETAR (he hadn't met me at Joel's booth - I met him shooting on the range there and recognized his bow)and btw was a GREAT shot - even at aerials (geez he hit 'em quite easily) then Joel's bows will be favorites of lots of people!
I am definitely anticipating enjoying mine!

 

Originally posted by cahaba:
Has anyone shot one of these bows? The bowyer says he makes a bow similar to John Schulz. He gets $535.00 plus $25.00 if you want Koa.
  http://jetarchery.com/  

[two4hooking]

Originally posted by LongStick64:
How many of you guys shoot Hill bows in the Hill style as described in the John Shulz video ?

I am also shooting the Hill style.  I used to be quite static and had a bad problem with TP and collapsing.

I have been using the Schulz video as a model and have been getting "internet coaching" by sharing my form videos on photobucket with a few folks from this forum that really know that style.  

I am looking forward to this hunting season!  I am more confident now than I have ever been in my life.  I spend 99% of my practice time now on blank bale shooting and working on form.  I keep learning new improvements constantly and most have been spelled out in the video, I was just too hard headed and ingrained in bad habits to realize it until I concentrated soley on form.

There are not that many folks fluent in this style so treat that Schulz video as Gospel....and read everything you can from Hill or his students.

[TommyBoy]

I stopped by the Jet Archery both at ETAR. While I did not shoot one, his workmanship looked impeccable.  Definitely worth trying for the price.

In John's book the chapter titled "Hold it? your wrong", says it all. It is where the shooting style and the longbow come together. Every game animal that I missed, I was trying to hold it.  Everyone I hit, I did not.  I had a thing going in my head for a while, where I thought that I needed to slow it all down and lock in my anchor, to shoot tighter groups. I think that longer holding is what injured my release fingers. When one hunts on the sneak like I do most of the time, game animals tend to not wait around to see how tight of a group you can shoot.

[Goshawkin]

Originally posted by cahaba:
Has anyone shot one of these bows? The bowyer says he makes a bow similar to John Schulz. He gets $535.00 plus $25.00 if you want Koa.
  http://jetarchery.com/  

I just looked at the website. Looks like he does nice work. Only one way to find out if you like how it shoots.I've shot bows that guys have said were the best and wasn't all that impressed.Shot others that didn't have a big reputation and they shot great! Ya never know until you try it for yourself.

[False Cast]

Mr. Templin and his Jet bows will be at the Great Lakes Longbow Invitational this weekend. I've been planning on checking them out. They look nice on his site but I'm somewhat skeptical of his "unlocking the secrets" of the Hill-style. The proof will be in the pudding, however. I'll form my opinion when I put some arrows through his bows and have one in my hands.

[Wannabe1]

Yes, I will definitely wait for further reviews before acting on something like this. I'd prefer a bowyer who has been a round a little longer and has a good reputation built up. I have no way of trying before buying so, have to go on the thoughts of others most of the time.

[awbowman]

Agree, think long..........think wrong!!!

All you have to do is concentrate on picking a SMALL spot, get to anchor and release.  Good shooting is more about a tuned arrow and a consistent grip and draw.

[Moots]

Those Jet bows do look nice!  Does anyone own one?  What do you think?

[smoke1953]

He was at Comptons and though I didn't shoot them they sure were good lookers. Guys came by that had been shooting and they sure had rave reviews. He has quite the impressive accomplishments with big game and an HH bow
 
Time will tell on the rest of his story but they did look nice and the price was right.

[smoke1953]

He was at Comptons and though I didn't shoot them they sure were good lookers. Guys came by that had been shooting and they sure had rave reviews. He has quite the impressive accomplishments with big game and an HH bow
 
Time will tell on the rest of his story but they did look nice and the price was right.

[Brianlocal3]

Linwood,
Thank you for your first hand account review of the Jet bows. Although as you say you have not been shooting the style long, you do know what feels good to you and what does not.  I know I appreciate your comments.
With that said, I have found my bower of choice in JD Berry and his longbows. For ME they are the best I have tried, and like many others here I have tried alot of them. So where I will say (and I do alot to those who ask) that JD Berry's are phenominal and everyone should try one, not everyone will feel the same as I do depending on their own personal preferences.  
I am glad to see this guy and his company, because as American Longbow shooters we have seen some great bowers and products arise and varity is the spice of life, so one mans perfect may not be anothers but there are plenty to choose from.

I will say though, that the name dropping and the infomercial like statements of "unlocking the secrets to the Shultz/Hill longbow" are off putting for me, but not enough for me to write him off.  I just find it to be very bold statement, but then again Im sure he feels that he has mastered the perfect longbow so good on him for having so much confidence in his product.

[False Cast]

I'm going to bring my bow with me to the GLLI shoot this weekend so I'll compare the Jet bows side-by-side with my Schulz. I'm not in the market for a bow but I'm anxious to see if the Jets are all that the bowyer says they are.

[Wannabe1]

Please provide in depth detail on you thoughts!   :D

[Wannabe1]

I am in need of some arrow advice. I just received a 69" HH Red Hawk and want to shoot some Surewood shafts tipped with 135gr. Ribtek broadheads. Bow is approx. 49# @ 28" and has a FF string on it. What spine arrow shaft and what length B.O.P.? Thanks in advance.

[cahaba]

Wannabe1 I am shooting a HalfBreed 50# 28" BOP with 160 gr. heads and 55/60s fly perfect.

[Green]

TW - I draw 28" and was shooting 29" 50-55#'s through her w/125 grains up front.  Hope this helps.

[mikebiz]

Originally posted by two4hooking:
Especially when one can pick up used John Schulz made bows at a fraction of that cost on the market.

Alright two4hooking.  I would love to know where your finding genuine Schulz bows for a fraction of the $550-$600 mark.  Are you holding out on us?  You're doing a real good job of keeping this Schulz treasure trove a secret.   :D

As far as the JET Archery bows go, I hope that Mr. Templin has success in this business.  I'm sure it's tough as hell to break into the longbow market.  Especially a niche like the American Semi-Long with such storied bowyers as Hill and Schulz.  Not to mention the current talents that have such fine reputations already established.  Best of luck to him.  He's located in eastern PA, so I would love to see a guy building a fine Hill-style bow in my neck of the woods.  

However, I hope he relies more on his skill as a bowyer than his sales pitch techniques.  I understand that a business owner must sell his product, but there's a certain decorum that one should follow.  Using the John Schulz and John Lee names better be followed up with an exceptional product.  Now David Miller, a Schulz trained bowyer, uses these names on his website when describing his study of the concave/convex limb design.  Those two men were in instrumental in his understanding of the technique.  Mentioning their contribution is a great gesture. And we know that David's bows measure up to the Schulz and Lee bows.  

One last thing. Giving Mr. Schulz his due respect by spelling his name correctly is a must.  Especially on a website that's using his name for marketing purposes.  It's a professional courtesy if nothing else.  So, it's SCHULZ everyone:
S. C. H. U. L. Z.  
To be honest I get really annoyed with all of the misspellings of this name floating around the web.  It's really not that hard to spell.