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Offline JCJ

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2320 on: April 16, 2011, 11:02:00 PM »
Any of you guys looking for a Sunset Hill quiver, I just listed one that is in new condition in the classifieds.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2321 on: April 17, 2011, 12:04:00 AM »
I've tried the Howard Hill glove off and on for years, with and without the inserts. I actually still have two at the moment. The problem that I have with the glove is that my draw is shorter, almost an inch shorter. With a cordovan tab, I get a deeper hook and a longer draw. I was thinking about trying one of those "Big Shot" gloves like Ken recommeneded. But for now the tab is best.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2322 on: April 17, 2011, 01:16:00 AM »
I'm so glad to see so many using a tab. I was feeling like the uncool kid using a cordovan tab with a Hill.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2323 on: April 17, 2011, 01:51:00 AM »
I sometimes use a tab , sometimes a glove but like Rik, I hunt bare fingered most of the time. Have so for the past 15 years .
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2324 on: April 17, 2011, 02:38:00 AM »
Tried a tab a few years ago but felt like I was always going to have it fly away with the string - too floppy for me.  I had started with a Big Shot and continued shooting with them.  I feel confident with that glove.  Recently received a Big Shot Crossover glove and wow, my release is smoother.  Just like Nate and Spanky have posted.

Went out shooting with Nate this evening.  Old soccer ball in a big field of grass and weeds, for moving target practice.  Had a blast and loved that glove.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2325 on: April 17, 2011, 03:41:00 AM »
I have a back up tab that I made out of very thick leather and a cant pinch that I added leather to so it would not hurt my fingers.  Most tabs are too hard on the fingers for me, the anticipation of pain never does my shooting any favors. I use Hill and mostly Big Shot gloves, unless I am playing around with a lighter pulling or short recurve bow.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2326 on: April 17, 2011, 05:55:00 AM »
Nate,

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2327 on: April 17, 2011, 06:56:00 AM »
My Tabs are two holers(3under type) there's no flopping around with this config'. You can make two holers with split finger tabs.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2328 on: April 17, 2011, 08:31:00 AM »
Rik, Thread drifted to tab vs. glove conversation. Please refer to question for you on previous page re: serving. Thanks
Gerald

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2329 on: April 17, 2011, 09:02:00 AM »
I really like the idea of trimming a Hill style glove Think I will get one and try it.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2330 on: April 17, 2011, 09:45:00 AM »
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Originally posted by GRS:
Rik, Thread drifted to tab vs. glove conversation. Please refer to question for you on previous page re: serving. Thanks
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Offline Rik

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2331 on: April 17, 2011, 12:16:00 PM »
I am not sure this picture will show up well enough to see the serving clearly, but I will include it anyway and try to explain how I triple serve a string.

I first serve the string normally. I use 80-pound SUFIX Performance braided fishing line rather than serving material because it is stronger, slicker on the fingers, and takes abrasion much better.

Then I place an arrow on the string and start a second layer of string immediately below where the nock fits on the string. I wrap that layer maybe a half inch longer than layer one so the end smooths out nicely.

Then I serve the same area a third time, also taking this layer about a half inch below where layer two ends so the end smooths out nicely.

That's it. Pretty simple. The are where the nock fits on the string has one layer of serving, the area where my fingers contact the string has three layers of serving.

As you can see, I shoot three fingers under (although I place the arrow in the same position as someone who shoots with one finger over the arrow----if they nock with the middle finger on the eye tooth).

If you shoot with one finger over, you would also need to serve two more layers above the nock.

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2332 on: April 17, 2011, 12:50:00 PM »
Rik, Thanks for the detailed explanation and the pics.
Gerald

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2333 on: April 17, 2011, 12:57:00 PM »
Has anyone chronoed their new Hills with cedar shafts recently?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2334 on: April 17, 2011, 03:37:00 PM »
It's against the law to chrono a Hill.  :readit:    :D
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2335 on: April 17, 2011, 04:44:00 PM »
Now's about time to report this:

A buddy of mine was shooting his brand new 68# Black Swamp and decided to shoot my Half Breed (68# at his draw) with the same arrows.  I think he wanted to poke fun at my slow Hill.  He kept shooting and shooting until he announced, somewhat in a disappointed tone, "this Hill is as fast as my Treadway".  No way, I said.  The others on the line thought  the Hill was as fast also.  Who'd have thought.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2336 on: April 17, 2011, 04:52:00 PM »
Mine is shooting right with my RD bows I was very very surprised..
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2337 on: April 17, 2011, 07:37:00 PM »
I think I'm starting to get the hang of this.

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2338 on: April 17, 2011, 07:50:00 PM »
Yes you are, Mudd.
I have been hearing that the newer middle weight Hills are shooting faster than the ones from 20 years ago.  There is nothing wrong with them shooting a quicker arrow than some have come to expect.

Offline Pete Patterson

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2339 on: April 17, 2011, 08:15:00 PM »
Pavan, some of the new ones have one or more carbon laminations that can increase speeds.  However, the Half Breed of mine, mentioned above, is a decade old and is three lams of bamboo and two of Yew.
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