HH bug got me ... Part One!

[Ray_G]

Tony,

There is if you pay for the online subscription.  It costs less than a mailed magazine subscription and can be read no matter where you are if you have internet access.  It can be obtained through the Traditional Bowhunter website.

Looks like Rob beat me to the finish line while I was typing.

[ChrisM]

Yep got to shoot some today but with the gail force winds we have had for three weeks I am still not sure if my arrows are tuned just right yet.  But fun to shoot anyhow.

Thanks Rob & Ray!

Crap...I use FireFox...I'll try anyway

[ChrisM]

OK where do I get the book that tells how howard shot.  I think its called hitin em like howard or something like that!!

[bulldog18]

Got out today and flung a few from my Badger. That was until it started raining after about five minutes of shooting. But it was all good.

[Raging Water]

Got to shoot about 30 arrows today out of my Dual Shelf Robin Hood. It was all good.

matt

[stik&string]

Going down to my basement to fling a few right now. A perfect way to end Easter Sunday! God bless all of you!

[Cookus]

Chris M,
     I've dealt with the winds myself here as of late...   I'm waiting for a fairly calm day to shoot broadheads myself!   Preliminary results show the (favorite Hill) Wesley likes a 200 grain Wensel Wooodsman.   My shooting has been sporadic lately, but my youngest daughter was born born April 11, so...   All is well boys!   May God God bless you all on this day!

[xbmedic]

Today I got to shoot my Big Five and my new Hill style that I made. I plan on posting pictures soon after I finish the clear coat. It is the first glass laminated bow that I have made.

[Dick in Seattle]

I got to actually feel like Robin Hood today.   I met my friend John at the range and we did some practicing on the flat range.   I'm working on a new release (two finger split), trying to get some semblance of acceptable consistent form back.  John was just practicing.  He was shooting his Martin Dreamcatcher.   We shot for awhile, then decided to go around the course, but on the way back from the last arrow retrieval, decided on one more practice round would be good.   John, who had been working at 30 yards drew back on the 40 yard target and put one in the X ring of the center bull of a five bull burlap target... 40 yds, first shot of the round!   And the last      , he's not dumb!   Being a no good so and so, I didn't congratulate him but stepped up with my 27# Bamboozle and said, "Guess I'll just have to split your arrow.   Now I had been practicing form at 10 and 20 yards, so I just figured I'd be giving us a laugh.    Drew back, and Bamboozle put the arrow into the same X  ring, almost touching John's arrow but slightly closer to center!   Talk about two dumbfounded archers, we were it!    John had his cell phone and took a pic, which he is supposed to email me.

[xbmedic]

Awesome, Captain! Can't wait to see the picture!

[canopyboy]

Originally posted by Tony Van Dort:
This thread is a nice quiet place full of happy.

 Yes it is...

[Dick in Seattle]

Here are pix of those two 40 yard shots yesterday.   Thought I sent them once but I must have hit the wrong button.  John's shot with the white feathers was first, then mine, after commenting that I guessed I was just going to have to split his arrow.   I didn't... quite... but man, those are shots we won't forget!

 

 

[Ray_G]

Great shooting, Dick and John.  Dick, throughout life, it is always good to be awed now and again.      I am glad that you two got out and got feathers in the wind!

Ray

[MT Longbow]

Ok, I dont know if this is the right spot to post but I need all of the HH guys help. Im shooting my new HH robin Hood, 70 inch 52# @ my draw of 29.5"..
-shooting a cordovon Supertab, 2under 1 over standard.
-Beman MFX 500 @31 inches with the 75 grain insert and a 125 field tip.total weight about 530 grains. 3@5" feathers LW
Tuning Bare shaft exactly same other than no feathers.


My issue is no matter where I set the nock point I get a nock high bare shaft flight...its very noticeable!!!  I tried the nock from 3/4 "  high to 1/4" LOW from 90 degrees and all in between.  I am using a bow square to set.  No matter what I do with the nock point the bare shaft is always flying tail 6-7 inches high  maybe more.

the nocks are not to tight on the string.

Iv'e tried my grip,Low med high.

Ive tried tip weight(100 grains to 145 grains)but Im not getting any left or right(spine)at all. pure vertical

Ive tried tweaking my release, deep hooks , not so deep hooks.

I cant figure it out.  

Flight with feathers is ok but I can see the arrow correcting for the high nock flight right away, and it tends to group low because of this.


any Ideas??

brace is set to 6.5 per the manual and it says plus or minus 1/8th so Im spot on there

Help please!

Thanks guys  

Patrick

[Nate Steen .]

Patrick,

I'd start with the grip first, low wrist, peak of grip into the lifeline of the hand, squeezing a little harder with the bottom fingers. Just like you would grip a pistol...  From there I always go to braceheight....starting around 5 3/4 and go up 1/8" at a time.  Some of these Hill bows like 6 1/2 - 7".

If you've tried all those different nocking points and the arrows are still kicking,  it's almost a sure sign that the limbs aren't recoiling at the same timing....your bow limb timing is off.  Both limbs must return to braceheight at the same time.  Because your bottom limb is shorter than the top limb, it must be bent further to compensate, so it can return in the same timing as the top limb.  Grip pressure is critical with a low wrist to accomplish this.  Line up the belly of the grip with the Y between your thumb and first finger...the back of the bow should line up with the finger pads between your first and second knuckles...now squeeze your fingers with pressure not on the fingertips, but on those finger pads (like you do when you shake someone's hand).  This seats the bow grip into the hand, giving you control and helping the bottom limb to bend correctly.  Now try shooting with the bottom of the nock about 1/4" over 90 degrees....

On one of the dvds i have of Howard Hill, playing it in super slow motion and then stopping right as Hill releases, the arrow can be seen bending into the bow, not away, then bending around the bow. If an arrow is too stiff and the bow is shot canted, could the arrow bend some into the bow and then not recover around the bow as in the Hill video, the result being a radical tail high kick?

[MT Longbow]

"Line up the belly of the grip with the Y between your thumb and first finger...the back of the bow should line up with the finger pads between your first and second knuckles...now squeeze your fingers with pressure not on the fingertips, but on those finger pads (like you do when you shake someone's hand). This seats the bow grip into the hand, giving you control and helping the bottom limb to bend correctly"

Imm trying to visualize this proper straight grip!!

Patrick

[Ken Babicky]

Patrick,

Another thought worth considering... a few years back I developed a different problem but I am thinking it could be relative to your issue and/or may be used in conjunction with the other suggestions. When shooting my Hills my arrows started kicking noticeably upon release. I eventually determined I wasn't using proper back tension and once I started focusing on back tension the problem immediately went away. I believe in my case I was not drawing straight back and was putting uneven pressure on the string.

Hope this is of some use.

[Nate Steen .]

patrick,
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