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Offline Shinken

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2620 on: May 05, 2011, 10:08:00 PM »
That is some nice VERA WOOD Chris!

Thank you for sharin' the photos.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2621 on: May 05, 2011, 10:23:00 PM »
Pictures really do not do it justice. It almost looks like deer hair.
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Offline MT Longbow

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2622 on: May 05, 2011, 11:18:00 PM »
Copy guys on leaving the HH bug right here....thats how I got interested...and hooked.  glad to hear your opinions.


Anyway...I got the book "Hunting the Hard Way" and the book "Hitting 'em like Howard Hill"

 great stuff, I paid WAY too much for the "Hitting 'em" book on Amazon...60$(ouch)

I thought it was rather rare...there was only one  offered used in very good condition.

But I see there is one listed on e&^Y right now for way less.

 I was looking everywhere for the Video  of this book Hitting 'em" like Howard Hill and I found one for rent via "SmartFlix"...it came today .

I watched it and its just like the book by John Schulz.  pretty neet to watch and see the ultra glossy black HH bow he uses and how Howard taught him to shoot.  neet !

Anyway Im shipping it back to SmartFlix tomorrow or Monday(might watch it again) and the # for it is A6840 if anyone wants to rent it after me.  They might even have another copy i dont know.

pretty cheap I think it cost me a total of 10$ to do the whole thing.  


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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2623 on: May 05, 2011, 11:38:00 PM »
Pete-
I like the Big Five, the riser looks like purple heart.

Chris-
The Verawood is really cool looking.

Nice bows,
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2624 on: May 06, 2011, 05:45:00 AM »
Oh, the bug has me all bitten up. I got my first HHA catalog when I was about 12. Well 24 years later I finally got my first hill, have another one in the mail and one I'm doing some research on. Glad I don't have a wife to answer to anymore. I would be getting a lot of this    :knothead:
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2625 on: May 06, 2011, 07:18:00 AM »
thanks Darren (and all).

I'm not sure about the riser wood, you might be right. I got from a fella that got from a fella....

I've only got to shoot it a little bit, hope to make up for that this weekend!

God Bless

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2626 on: May 06, 2011, 08:32:00 AM »
Chris, thanks for the vera wood pictures--really cool!  Do you find it a bit heavier in mass weight than other woods?  According to wood density info I found it is quite dense--81# per cubic foot.  Osage is about 59 in comparison.  I could be interested in a longbow with a tad more mass weight.  :D
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2627 on: May 06, 2011, 08:44:00 AM »
Sal it's great news about the doc letting you get back to shooting.

I'm happy to hear you're getting along well with the Jerry Hill.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2628 on: May 06, 2011, 09:02:00 AM »
i read and hear lotsa different opinions on hill style longbow riser woods and mass weight.  

there is a camp that believes in lighter weight woods such as the myrtle genus can provide, and others are into heavy hardwoods like cocobolo and all the ebony flavors from around the globe.  

given the dimensions and all the materials, save for the riser, are equal, and given the small footprint of a hill riser, ain't gonna be much mass bow weight difference 'tween lightweight myrtle and super dense lignum-vitae, just a few ounces, and yer bowhand ain't gonna feel that to any major degree.  

so, personally, none of that matters a hoot to me for performance - it's really all about the bow design, the limbs, and how you use it all best to your advantage.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2629 on: May 06, 2011, 09:42:00 AM »
I think the take-down Hills are a bit heavier in mass than the one-piece bows due to the metal handle, but I traded my one-piece Wesley for a nearly new wall tent, so I don't have it available to weigh and compare to my take-down Wesleys.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2630 on: May 06, 2011, 11:56:00 AM »
I have had bows made with cocobola, bubinga, myrtle, ebony etc. I like them all.

Mostly, I've gotten cocobola because I like the the black swirl of the grain pattern and the deep red color. "Different strokes for different folks"

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2631 on: May 06, 2011, 12:13:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Mudd:
Sal it's great news about the doc letting you get back to shooting.

I'm happy to hear you're getting along well with the Jerry Hill.

God bless,Mudd
Thanx Roy, It does feel good to shoot again and that Jerry Hill seems to feel just right since I watched the Vids that SunSetHill posted. I'm getting a very nice release and darts flying from the Bow...

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2632 on: May 06, 2011, 12:25:00 PM »
That one-piece Wesley I mentioned above sure brought home a lot of meat over the years.

I am not sure if I've shared this photo here before, but it brings back some great memories. It took me 20 years to finally draw an Idaho moose tag, and the Wesley had to make a quick-draw shot that would have made Marshall Dillon proud.

It was the one and only time I have had to use the swing-draw on an animal. Things were going to Heck quickly, but the Wesley did it's job to perfection! That once-in a lifetime tag made for a 23-day, once-in-a-lifetime adventure in the shadows of the Tetons I will never forget.

 

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2633 on: May 06, 2011, 12:27:00 PM »
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so, personally, none of that matters a hoot to me for performance - it's really all about the bow design, the limbs, and how you use it all best to your advantage.

ymmv.
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2634 on: May 06, 2011, 12:29:00 PM »
Wow, I'm not sure what happened to the photo, the Photobucket resizing cropped it weird.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2635 on: May 06, 2011, 12:57:00 PM »
Rik, That is an awsome pic and story even with the weird cropping.

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2636 on: May 06, 2011, 01:14:00 PM »
Aw, geez, Rob, don't mess up a guy's rationalization for "needing" to try a different Hill!  I've about run out of "reasons" to get more.  that one was my last, best excuse, and here you go and rain on my parade.   ;)
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2637 on: May 06, 2011, 01:15:00 PM »
I got that Wesley from Mudd last night and I think every shaft I've got is toooo stiff.  I was going to fire up Stu's calculator but what do I put on the center shot measurement?

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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2638 on: May 06, 2011, 01:44:00 PM »
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Aw, geez, Rob, don't mess up a guy's rationalization for "needing" to try a different Hill!  I've about run out of "reasons" to get more.  that one was my last, best excuse, and here you go a rain on my parade.   ;)  
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Re: HH bug got me ... Part One!
« Reply #2639 on: May 06, 2011, 01:49:00 PM »
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Originally posted by D Sheffey:
I got that Wesley from Mudd last night and I think every shaft I've got is toooo stiff.  I was going to fire up Stu's calculator but what do I put on the center shot measurement?

Dan
Try adding more point weight. Other then that a better way would be to get a test kit of shafts to find what works best from that bow & You.

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