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The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« on: May 10, 2004, 05:28:00 AM »
Well, I've been wondering if I should get on here telling stories and all, but just decided they could move me or delete me. I just gotta do something!
You see, I came back from Turkey hunting two weeks ago and had two things happen which are notable.
The first thing is that I quit smoking cigarettes after 35 years of addiction.
Now that would have been pretty cool and something to brag about, but it seems I got a nasty spring cold at the same time.
The whole problem is this. I've been off the cigs for two weeks and the whole time my chest has been congested, nose has been all runny, ears are stopped up and I've been coughing my head off.
I'm so damn proud of having quit smoking I could puke, but I'm not getting to realize any of the benefits of having done it yet.
And to get around to the title of this thread, I haven't felt like doing a whole lot during the day, so I haven't been that active.
I get in bed around 10 P.M. and by 1 or 2 A.M. I'm awake. It's gotten to be so bad, that my whole schedule has just about reversed. I'm up all night and sleep all day.

Soooooo... I was thinkin about tellin a long drawn out huntin story, complete with blood and gore, fully drawn longbows and arrows screaming through the air. All true of course!
The way I figure it, it will keep me busy till the cold passes and my schedule gets back to normal and will help keep my mind off the damn cigs in the mean time.

Who knows, maybe I can come up with a photo or two.

Since I'm probably the only one on this side of the planet who's up at this hour, I'll wait a while and get the story rolling. (and see if anyone even cares to hear one  :)  )
Hunt Sharp

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2004, 05:39:00 AM »
Charlie, Congrats on quiting the cigs  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  .I would like to hear the story.I always enjoy your them and it will give me something to look forward to when I get back from work.
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2004, 06:48:00 AM »
Love stories Charlie but I feel the smoking story is the big one. I too have been where you are now but after 30 years being smoke free I can tell you it's worth every bit of quitting. Congrats on the quitting..  :thumbsup:    :notworthy:  I respect anyone that does....Mac~
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2004, 06:56:00 AM »
Thanks for the support guys (I knew I'd get it here  :)  )
The quitting is as tough as anything I've done and it's going well so far... and that's a big surprise to me!
The benefits of course are increased lung function, which means better stamina in the woods and mountains, as well as improved blood flow to various body parts... like my brain. Maybe that will help my shooting.

Here's the first installment of the story.
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I guess if we live long enough we end up with some favorite memories. Funny how most of those memories have nothing at all to do with work!

One of my very favorites (I’ve got a pile of them) took place more years ago than I care to remember now.
I lived in the mountains of western Wyoming then and spent every spare minute I had in pursuit of some critter or the other.
Small game especially grabbed my attention when I lived out there. Heck, I had grown up in a small game hunting family. They had to be if they wanted to hunt at all. When most of my uncles and my Dad were in their formidable years there was very little large game to be hunted in the mid west. There wasn’t a lot of large game in my home state when I was growing up either.
Fortunately we had lots of rabbits in those days.

Being from the city also complicated the situation for me when I was young. There were a few situations I could take advantage of. Railroad tracks always had brushy areas I could bust through for cottontails and the local golf course had plenty of bunnies and fox squirrels in the rough areas.... I just had to avoid the greens keeper.

I escaped, whenever I could, into the pages of my favorite books.
Saxton Pope spoke glowingly of small game hunting and mentioned ground squirrels as a favorite.
Howard Hill devoted a couple of chapters of his book “Hunting the Hard Way” to hunting small game with one about ground squirrels in particular.
I just knew that some day I would have to experience ground squirrel hunting.

My first opportunity came when I was nineteen. I’d taken a summer job in Wyoming, working for the U.S. Forest Service.
I built trails in the national forest and ground squirrels were literally everywhere.
I spent many evenings alone, stalking the glades and forest edges for the prolific Franklin’s ground squirrel.
It put a hook in me for hunting them that lasts to this very day.

Years later I would move back to the mountains and continue my love affair with hunting ground squirrels.

Though I hunted them almost daily during the season when they were above ground and shot literally thousands of the little varmints, the story I’m about to relate is one of my favorite memories.

I had been off fishing with my best friend on a lovely spring day in western Wyoming. The fishing had been good and we had a mess of trout in the cooler which would provide a tasty supper that evening.
We were on our way home and had rounded a bend in the road which bordered ranch lands.
Looking out across a meadow there, we were stunned at what we saw. Ground squirrels were literally running everywhere.
Larry was a small game hunting fanatic like myself and had lived in the area even longer than I had and he had never seen anything like it.
The meadow grasses were cropped short by the hordes of gnashing incisors and it seemed like every five or ten feet there stood or ran or peeked out of a hole, a squirrel.
It so happened that Larry knew the rancher who owned the property. We were soon standing in front of him asking permission to go shoot ground squirrels.
Gaining permission wasn’t really much of a challenge. Like most other area  ranchers, this one was anxious to be rid of ALL of the little squeakers.  They not only ate a lot of grass, but they dug holes everywhere. Mostly the holes were little escape burrows no bigger than a shot glass in diameter, but each family group had a main burrow entrance that could be the size of a serving platter or larger and deep enough to trip and break the leg of valuable live stock.

We were soon out in the meadow with bows in hand. Larry’s favorite was an early Bear compound that pulled 70 pounds and only let off 30 percent.
My bow was at  the other end of the spectrum. It was a Howard Hill Big Five, with bubinga riser and bamboo limbs that took 82 pounds of force to bring to full draw.
That bow was new to me and you might say I was still learning to shoot “ longbow style”.
We were both shooting cedar arrows with plain steel blunts up front.

Since we’d had a full day of fishing already and our wives would be waiting impatiently for us at home we could only spare an hour or two for the squirrels.
We crossed the fence into the first pasture and stayed close together, trading off shot opportunities as they popped up.
It wasn’t like anything either of us had ever experienced before.  There was hardly any stalking involved in our approaches. The squirrels weren’t all that wary and in most cases we could walk within twenty yards of a squirrel before it got edgy and dove for cover.
That suited us to a T. We were both tired from a long day and weren’t THAT into it.
We found that the first pasture was bounded on one side by a row of willows and marsh land behind that, out buildings and corrals formed the other boundary. The far end had more willows and when we had shot our way to that point we found another pasture beyond. It had as many or more squirrels than the first.

After a couple of hours we headed back to the truck. The shooting had been unbelievable. We had each killed 45-50 squirrels and had shot a couple of doubles to boot.
We discussed the situation and decided we’d come back the next weekend with lots of arrows and the goal of shooting 100 squirrels apiece.
Hunt Sharp

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2004, 08:16:00 AM »
Great story Charlie and great shooting...sounds like a really fun day.  Congrates on being a nonsmoker.  I quite last August after 35 yrs. of 2 packs aday.  I used the patches for 5 wks. (suppose to use for 10 wks.) and have not looked back. I can honestly say I feel better and can actually smell things again...especially smokers...didn't realize I stunk that bad for so many years!  Stay with it and if you start to slip...email me and I'll straighten you out.  Oh, by the way...the down side. Watch your eating and start an exercise program.  I gained 20 lbs. right off and am just now getting some of it off. The up side...better health, more spending money and more game encounters when you don't smell like smoke.  :thumbsup:

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2004, 09:28:00 AM »
Congrats Charlie on quiting!!! Hang in there Buddy!!   :thumbsup:  Love huntin those destructive hole digging dirty rotten @%*%!#XXXX little rascals. Saw a few babies a couple days ago so we're working on another crop out here.
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2004, 09:32:00 AM »
Congrats on quitting, im trying to not go down that road, but somtimes smoke when i feel stressed out. Cool story too!
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2004, 09:47:00 AM »
Will there be movie named after this...  :D
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2004, 09:50:00 AM »
Congrats Charlie. I no what your going thru [ It was chew for me] Your on the downhill run now, still pretty tough for awhile thou. Thanks for the story. Oh by the way I changed to four fletch on acount of your advise. Best thing I've done for my shootin in a long while. Thanks  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2004, 09:50:00 AM »
congrats on the no smoking its tuff...once ur body gets through detox...ya gone to feel better..hang in there big guy...marco#78
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2004, 10:19:00 AM »
Charlie,

Congrats on quitting. Towards the end of February I decided to work on quitting and got "the patch". It really took the edge off, and helped with the psychological addiction. After a month and a half of off-the-wagon/on-the-wagon, I woke up April 3rd and decided no more patch and no more smoking.

So far, it's been over 5 weeks. The cravings have all but gone away and I've got a lot more energy than before. Hang in there, because it does get better.

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2004, 10:30:00 AM »
Congrats Bro. If you start having a bad day and are thinking about smoking, think about Brunner. He quit smoking too. I do believe it was more difficult for him though.  :eek:  

Now buddy, if you will answer your telephone, I have a hunting story to tell you. On with the show! CK

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2004, 10:42:00 AM »
Charlie,

Thanks for the story, and congrats on quitting the coffin nails...but, please go see your Doc and make sure that cold doesn't turn into pneumonia or something else.

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2004, 10:49:00 AM »
To all thanks again for the kind words and encouragement. I know it's gonna be great and am committed to quitting.
I was working on weight loss and conditioning before quitting but put aside the pressure of weight loss. I have always trained with weights and done aerobic training as well.
I had lost about 30# and suspect I'll put some of that back with the smoke sessation. I figure to worry about the tough one first, then get back to diet.
I've got a rockchuck hunt in Wyoming planned for June, so that's a short range goal and will be hitting the Colorado elk timber in Sept. with the gang for a midrange goal, and doing all that stuff for years to come as the overall goal.

For those of you who think that first little ditty was the story I was talkin about... you don't know my stories.  :D   That was just me warming up!  :cool:  
The real story is coming soon.
Hunt Sharp

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2004, 10:54:00 AM »
Hey, You're going to Wyoming the same time as me. What a coencidence! What about the August trip to Texas? You think its gonna be a cake walk? Better get in shape mister. Im planning to work you. On with the story. CK

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2004, 10:55:00 AM »
Great job Charlie! I quit just before 911 and my son went in the Marines on 910 so it was tough but I made it and feel soooooo much better after 40 yrs of suckin on them things! You will see soon how your health improves> I gained about 15 -20 lbs. but I could use it.
  Those Grey Diggers are outstanding for keepin you sharp. I started out with a bow on them when I was 12.Got 23 that summer!

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2004, 11:50:00 AM »
Charlie, great story so far. I have spent some time with 22 shooting those guys and they are fun.

I quit smoking 4 years now. I have packed on some pounds. Found that taking extra vitamin C the first few weeks helped with the clean out and detoxing. And less coffeee.
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2004, 12:20:00 PM »
Dang Charlie, you're my new HERO!  :D  

Quitting smoking AND shooting them picket pins with a BOW!  

I quit the stickin smokes at 30 and went to MT and started whailing on them pocket gophers but with long range 22's, handguns, everything imaginable BUT bows...

You gotta have some niave ones to get that close... but dang, I'd think they'd duck an arra pretty darn quick!  You're da Man!    :cool:    :p
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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2004, 10:09:00 PM »
Yeah guys, they can be a little jumpy. But if ya reach out and touch them at a little distance they aren't near as jumpy.  Heck, a close miss at 30 yards is pretty good shootin in my book. I've taken them a lot further away than that too!

On with the story.

The week went by slowly at work. In the evenings Larry and I were working on our arrow supply for the upcoming weekend.
I was putting together a couple dozen cedars with sage green full length dip and white fletch. Nothing fancy at all, just good shooting ammo.
By the time the weekend rolled around I’d shot a few more squirrels around home to stay loose, but hadn’t gotten after them too seriously.  
Saturday at first light found Larry and I parked in the ranch drive getting our gear squared away. Larry had cheated on me. He lowered the poundage on his Bear compound to 60 pounds peak in anticipation of a lot of shooting.
Before the day was half over I’d wish I could have lowered the weight of my bow!

The action was pretty slow at first. That’s the way it goes with ground squirrels... at least the way it goes with the variety we were hunting. They are just not early risers, but we were eager to get started.
 At first we shot along together, but soon I had shot an arrow that skipped away from the direction of Larry’s last shot and we split up.
I eased off around the remains of an old saw mill that had stood on the ranch for ages. It’s piles of old lumber and logs made perfect hiding places for the squirrels. I was doing my best not to shoot too many shots before searching for my arrows. If I didn’t watch my self I’d forget how many times I shot and leave arrows laying. It was inevitable that I lose a few that way and during the course of the day I’d find arrows laying that had been unaccounted for.
The mill was a gold mine of squirrels and I killed half a dozen around the perimeter of the old building. I wasn’t doing the best shooting that I had ever done. That was for sure. My bow was a new one and much heavier than any bow I’d ever owned before.
That coupled with the fact that it was the first longbow that I’d ever owned and I was probably lucky if I was hitting one squirrel out of every five shots.
What the rancher had here was a real problem. An infestation of ground squirrels. They are know to carry all kinds of germs and creepy crawly stuff on them and the higher the population numbers get the more prone they are to disease.
Neither Larry nor myself was that interested in handling the squirrels any more than we had to.
We had both agreed that we would save all the squirrels we shot for a picture or two when we were finished. About the only way we could do that without carrying the little beggars around with us and getting overrun with fleas, was to establish little piles of them. In other words shoot in one area for a while and throw each dead squirrel on a heap in that area before moving to the next area.
Now that would have been a good plan had it not been for the fact that this variety of ground squirrel is cannibalistic. We both found the nasty little devils raiding our stashes and dragging their dead relatives off to their burrows. It’s hard telling how many we lost that way or for that matter how many we killed as they raided the piles.

I had moved out from the mill house and was working over a small group of squirrels that were living in a huge pile of logs.
As I’d peak around the end of the pile they’d peak back at me from the other end. If I’d try to move clear of the pile to get an angle for a shot, they’d duck and work their way far under the logs.
I soon came up with an idea.
I’d made up a few arrows with HTM rubber blunts and had them in my quiver. I drew one from the leather bag and placed it on the string. As I rounded the end of the log pile, a small gray head popped up at the far end.
I squatted slightly to reduce the angle between us, aimed the arrow to hit a couple of feet in front of the squirrel and let it slip. Twang, zizzzzzzzzz, twhapp!!!! I busted him right out of there. The arrow had laid down right in the angle of the logs and funneled down to him as pretty as you please.
I worked that angle as long as I could until the squirrels in that area got too spooky and I had to move on.

I had gotten to the point that I handled the dead squirrels pretty roughly. I’d skewer one with a well placed shot, pick up the arrow by the fletching and shake him off ,on or near my latest pile. That would leave me with a rather “gooey” arrow. At first I’d just take it to the nearest sage bush and wipe the shaft down with a hand full of sage leaves. But as the shooting got faster and opportunities were presenting themselves almost faster than I could react I got to the point that I just stuck the arrow shaft between my legs and drew it through the denim material to clean it.
By lunch time I was a smelly mess.
As it turned out, Larry had been doing the same and we smiled sheepishly at each other when we met down by the river to eat our sandwiches.
Comparing notes we found that each of us had killed squirrels that we had even been shooting at. The arrows upon missing the intended target animal would skip off across the hard flat ground and often smack a different one.
On top of that, we had each taken several doubles... two squirrels with one shot, and I had killed a triple. Three little ones had popped up out of a hole to look at me, one behind the other. My rubber blunt scattered them like tiny bowling pins.**
Hunt Sharp

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Re: The great ground squirrel massacree!!
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2004, 11:42:00 PM »
Very cool,Charlie.Have you ever thought about writing a book about your adventures????

I know you're not finished yet....right?
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